this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2025
231 points (100.0% liked)
Technology
71502 readers
4714 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related news or articles.
- Be excellent to each other!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
- Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.
Approved Bots
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Easy enough! except, that most people don't even know what is a VLAN, let alone have any network device that supports it. It takes a special kind of router to have such settings, and no, OpenWRT is not the solution for that as they have limitations on the minimum amount of memory the device has to have
So it's a skill issue, then? Got it. Any old PC + a $10 pcie network adapter can be turned into a router capable of it.
it is first and foremost a
Hardware issue.
but also who the fuck wants to have a power hungry PC as the router. old PC, so we can probably count with 80 W at the least
but also, how the fuck would a PC help with the skill issue?
Here, let me help.
https://ebay.us/m/3res0I
Less than 20 USD.
Like I said. Not willing to even try to look for something appropriate for your use case.....
It means you don't know how to make it work. Last I checked, a used N100 all in one PC with dual Ethernet is cheaper than even most brand new consumer routers, and also sips watts.
also, in my area most people either use the ISP router, or buy the cheapest ones which is around 50-75 eur which there are plenty, and they are already complaining that it's too expensive
cheapest n100 I see here is 100 eur: https://www.amazon.fr/intel-n100/s?k=intel+n100
I'm not in france.
You can't buy used on Amazon. I said used
The largest majority of people also can't be bothered to do a single shred of research before buying something. How is that anyone else's problem but theirs?
The best consumer protection comes from the consumer. Do a bit of research before you buy something.
If you can't be bothered to take a few extra minutes to do that, then quite frankly, you deserve to be fucked by scammers.
and this is exactly how being fucked by scammers will become normal
stop with your fucking elitism and start thinking what to do for those whos work/hobby is not in IT, because that's 99.999% of people.
It's not elitism to say "If you want something done right, do it yourself."
Elitism?
Dude. I am an almost 50 year old, former truck driver with no formal education on any of this shit, and yet, I managed to figure it out.
If you can't, then that's most assuredly a YOU problem.
SURELY you're smarter than a truck driver?
It's not about me, but about all the people around me
So punish those of us who do know how to make the cheap stuff work in a way we want, by removing the cheap stuff from the market, because other idiots don't?
Yeah, solid idea.
where did I recommend that?
It is a natural consequence of tighter regulations.
largest majority of smarthome shit users don't know or care how computers work. are you willing to legally ban them from buying these garbage? or what is the solution?
and then they need to set it up (wtf, they have issues navigating their phones), and get it maintained (updates)
Again. That's a lack of skill. Why is it my problem?
If they can't be bothered to do 5 minutes of research before buying something, that's on them.
Caveat emptor.
Because when manufacturers see that they can get away with this shit, they will all start doing it, and then you can stick up your research because there will be nothing else.
Only if it's made too hard for a new company or more options to emerge.