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The Supreme Court on Monday turned away an appeal by a group of gun rights advocates seeking to overturn Maryland's ban on assault-style rifles and high-capacity magazines under the Second Amendment.

The decision, a major win for gun safety advocates, leaves in place a ruling by the Fourth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals which ruled that the state may constitutionally prohibit sale and possession of the weapons.

The state legislation, enacted in 2013 after the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting, specifically targets the AR-15 -- the most popular rifle in America with 20-30 million in circulation. They are legal in 41 of the 50 states.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (42 children)

So this just bans that “style” of rifle? Someone can just go buy some other semi-automatic rifle that doesn’t look as imposing or whatever but will still kill a person just as dead?

According the language of the actual law the answer is either "no" or "not really, no". The law calls out a couple dozen aspects of firearms that precludes most of the "style" concerns. The biggest one is a limit on magazines only containing a maximum 10 rounds. While, yes, 10 rounds can still do lots of damage, it requires more frequent reloading, more chances for error, greater amount of encumbrance of the shooter. Assuming a shooter was using a gun that complied with this law, it would allow more opportunities to intervene or for people to get away.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (39 children)

You'd think that if someone was about to slaughter as many people as possible they wouldn't really be to worried about a 10-round mag law.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

You’d think that if someone was about to slaughter as many people as possible they wouldn’t really be to worried about a 10-round mag law.

You're missing the point of these laws entirely. No one is saying that passing a law like this is going to remove every possible avenue for someone to get the most destructive gun on the planet and do the most damage possible.

What these laws are intended to do is make it less likely someone will have access to the most destructive gun on the planet. If someone plans multiple years ahead, they can go to the far ends of the Earth to get the most destructive gun possible. However, if they got pissed off at their boss that morning and decide to commit this kind of crime they'll only have wants available to that morning. If they were a legal gun owner when the day started, that means they'll only have 10 round magazines at most. Even if they drive to the local store nearby, they'd only be able to buy more 10 round magazines.

Lets even say that higher capacity magazines are available in the next state over. That may mean hours of planning and travel just to get to the other state to get the high capacity magazines, then all the time it takes to get back home to commit their crime. That's a lot of time for someone to consider what they're doing, the impact it will have on others, and even their own lives.

Will some still do it with all of that planning and bother needed? Yes. Will everyone? Doubtful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It takes 5 minutes to change a 10 round magazine into a high capacity one

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Why do you think if we can't stop the most determined Luigi's out there that regulation is impotent? We aren't trying to stop the very edge cases, we are trying to stop crimes of passion, which most gun crime is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

It takes 5 minutes to change a 10 round magazine into a high capacity one

Any magazine that can be changed in 5 minutes to hold more than 10 rounds likely doesn't count as a legal magazine even with only 10 round capacity at that time of sale.

Here's an example from the text California law with a piece on the 10 round magazine limits and exceptions:

"With limited exceptions, California law prohibits any person from manufacturing, importing into the state, keeping for sale, offering or exposing for sale, giving, lending, buying, or receiving a large capacity magazine.1 (A “large capacity magazine” is defined as any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than ten rounds, with exceptions for any .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device, any feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than ten rounds, or any tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm).2" source

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