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Lemmy,Mbin, piefed, what even are those? (feddit.cl)

submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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First of all, how is called this category of programs, instance engine?

Second, why there are 3 different, basically inter-compatible projects out there, what are the benefits of each one over the others? and why does Lemmy prevail all of them.

*i will be using feddit as a umbrella term for all the reddit-like fediverse.

I don't have much of a technical Background to know how this things work under the hood, but I'm quite curious of where all of this is heading.

I see a lot of awesome features locked away in these other projects that would be just nice if it was standard to have them, like piefed's hashtag-like system that allows people to seek things by topic instead of going to a specific community hosted in a specific instance, it would instantly fix the fragmentation problem across feddit, lol.

How the future of feddit will be? will be all be using Lemmy or other specific project, or instances will use whatever project they like and they will be cross compatible enough that it won't be much of a deal what project is running underneath?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

There have been discussions about how to implement this before. But it has to be done in a way that is agreed by other threadiverse software.

I think we should move away from "threadiverse software" and embrace a transparent social web.

If we want to be transparent, we need to stop creating these leaky abstractions. Votes are not private. A vote on Lemmy is just a Like, a downvote is just a dislike. Instead of pretending this information should be private, we should make it clear to the users that they should only react in anyway if they feel comfortable in sharing their opinion in public.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

That depend, what your are trying to achieve.

Your point is valid. PieFed point of view is also valid. There are circumtance where voting is better private than transparency. As for myself, i would completly remove the voting system because it is useless.

Why are you voting ? Do you like the cat picture ? The article ? The title ? We will never know. So what's the point of voting since we don't know its reasons ?

Why it is at the top of my timeline ? And what about minorities ? Let's imagine 10 deafs people 1000 hearing people. If ya 1000 hearing people downvote a post because you don't want to see a post with sign language...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

So what’s the point of voting since we don’t know its reasons ?

Don't overcomplicate this. Voting is a way to collectively curate content. If it is relevant to the community and you feel the content is a positive addition to the community, you vote up. If you think it's a negative addition, you vote it down. That's all that there is to it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Voting like this is a bit of a dark pattern, though. Especially downvotes. They come from places where the platform owners want to download the responsibility of community management to the community itself. This has a nasty tendency to silence valid criticism while simultaniously supporting brigading behaviour.

At the very least, we should be having serious, design-focused discussions about eliminating or highly restricting downvotes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

StackOverflow solved this specific issue pretty well IMO. Each downvote costs you a reputation/karma/fake-internet-point. Lemmy doesn't count karma, so that'd a bit of a nonstarter, but for systems that do, that feels like a good way to discourage rampant use of downvotes.

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