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Call to defederate from feddit.org over zionism (amended) (lemmy.sdf.org)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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New Lemmy Drama: "Feddit.org officially announces they will ban criticism of Israel and pro-Palestinian posts and comments."

I find this morally reprehensible. I have always spoken against defederazation when others have mentioned it. This is too much. Apologies if this upsets anyone.

Palestinians are human beings and have a right to life.

Edit: I have been persuaded by some thoughtful replies. I will block them from my view. I no longer support making the decision for others. Thanks all.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (16 children)

It is possible to be pro-Palestinian and anti-Hamas at the same time.

Similarly, it is possible to be pro-Jewish and anti-Israel at the same time.

They key is to be in favour of, and supporting, the innocent civilians that are NOT wielding hate and bigotry, and in direct and vociferous opposition to the power structures on BOTH sides that have looked true evil in the eye and said, “hold my beer and watch this”.

I am as anti-Hamas as I am anti-Israel. Both power/political structures are among the most reprehensibly evil orgs on the planet at this time.

I stand with the innocent civilians; with THE PEOPLE.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (6 children)

If you oppose armed resistance against genocide you are pro genocide. It is that simple

If you are anti Hamas you are anti Palestinian. Because Hamas are the ones fighting against the occupation and genocide. Else you can pretend to be pro Palestinian by supporting the PA which is nothing more than an extension of Israel oppressing Palestinians.

But besides that, Feddit is straight up banning calls for Zionism to be abolished which is full undeniable pro-Zionism

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

If you oppose armed resistance against genocide you are pro genocide. It is that simple

It's not quite that simple. Hamas is a deeply corrupt and counterproductive organization. Israel arranges funding for them and supports them against their political opposition, because having Hamas largely in charge of (edit: ~~Palestine~~) Gaza is often a disaster for the Palestinians, which Israel enjoys.

You can absolutely oppose Israel's genocide and also oppose Hamas's horrifying fig-leaf of "resistance" to that genocide which is mostly useless militarily, and just provides useful pretexts for Israel to do more genocide (not that they need them.)

Else you can pretend to be pro Palestinian by supporting the PA which is nothing more than an extension of Israel oppressing Palestinians.

This is where your argument goes from incomplete to bizarre. Why do you say the PA which Israel dislikes is an extension of Israel, while Hamas which Israel likes and supports (in between military operations) is an authentic resistance organization?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Hamas said to turn down $2B offer to disarm, relocate top commanders from Gaza

Israel doesn't dislike the PA. The PA works for Israel.

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