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I didn't know which community to post something in and so here we are.

Please comment if you know a more appropriate community for a post.

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  • People put too much faith in admins/mods making judicious modlog actions and entries. A bad admins/mod’s word can mar you permanently because their flawed perception molds your reputation and their word is worth as much as a judicious word.
  • Modlog entries are often not written thoroughly enough to give a complete story, and content being removed also removes context. This affects users’ judgment of other users.
  • You can block an instance but you can't block all of its users (without hopping to another instance that happens to be defedded from them). You have no recourse to users on another instance slandering you locally for all to see, which comes down to how the Fediverse is not just one big bubble but many overlapping smaller bubbles.
  • Community/instance rules are not written clearly enough to be understood by a vast audience. A user may interpret a rule differently from a mod/admin or a rule may be obscured from the user due to the poor design. A site with a large audience like FaceBook or Reddit will have their rules written in a way that is clear to anyone, whereas Lemmy only tests rule comprehensibility on a select few.
  • There are crazy mods/admins out there, and the good ones are so desperate to build the Lemmy userbase that they will maintain association with these crazy mods/admins for as long as they have to, all while the damage accrues.
  • Some users treat their admin as a Messiah, and some admins treat an absurdity as a Messiah. Admins across multiple popular instances find their ideologies as an absolute guide and they will follow them to the absurd, deriving superstition and/or conspiracy paranoia that they feed to their userbase to convince them of the same. I have been forced to leave Lemmy because of an admin leading a baseless witch-hunt against me simply because I voiced disagreement with what they consider a Messiah.
  • People don’t do their research about other users/mods/admins. This can turn baseless accusations into witch-hunts, or true accusations into something that is ignored in favor of assuming that a mod/admin must be judicious to hold their position. If Lemmy were to implement a removed comment/post archive, that would only help the few users who care enough about making evidence-based decisions.

You can have modlog entries against you for communities and instances that you’ve never even interacted with, and each of these are counted as individual pieces of evidence against you. You can get modlog entries against you for communities in which you’ve strictly followed the rules, and each of these are counted as individual pieces of evidence against you. You can have modlog entries against you that don’t provide any evidence — maybe you mentioned that you were of a certain demographic that an admin/mod is bigoted against so they ban you and say you did xyz crime with actually linking to a case of you committing xyz crime. Maybe you said you held a certain opinion so a mod/admin who disagrees bans you and says you committed xyz crime when you didn’t. You can do everything right and still be judged wrong.

Too many users/mods/admins put too much faith into that which lacks evidence, and even if the site were designed to give them more evidence, I doubt they would change.

I had been on Lemmy for 2 years and saw little to no headway in the infrastructure that would remedy this.

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cross-posted from: https://midwest.social/post/30028880

See the stickied comment below for an explanation and statement of our purpose, based on simple back-of-the-napkin math

E: if someone could please link this community to r/aspen and r/roaringforkvalley I would greatly appreciate it. I’ve been IP banned by the all powerful AI mod monster, like many folks on Lemmy

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Why is there so much cruelty? So much us vs. them thinking? Why is the MAGA movement a thing? Watch this video for partial answers.

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For anyone out of the loop:

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So I've noticed that there's a little group of accounts all with the same name, presumably the same person with alts on several instances, and they all like to upvote their own stuff from their other accounts with the same name on other instances (and from other accounts which don't have the same name but seem likely to be the same person). Here's what it looks like. (I have redacted their actual username, since I'm not sure if that is acceptable to post in a bigger and not-drama-centered community.)

Each of these little groupings is multiple votes from accounts with the exact same name, all applied to the same comment within a few minutes of each other from (for example) the programming.dev and slrpnk.net accounts, a little while after the infosec.pub account posted it:

SELECT p.actor_id, cl.score, cl.comment_id, cl.published FROM person p, comment_like cl WHERE p.name = 'redacted' AND cl.person_id = p.id ORDER BY published ASC;
              actor_id              | score | comment_id |           published           
------------------------------------+-------+------------+-------------------------------

(some excerpts:)

 https://infosec.pub/u/redacted     |     1 |    1961075 | 2025-02-22 16:22:56.014731+00
 https://slrpnk.net/u/redacted      |     1 |    1961075 | 2025-02-22 18:00:51.325286+00
 https://programming.dev/u/redacted |     1 |    1961075 | 2025-02-22 18:03:18.236992+00

 https://programming.dev/u/redacted |     1 |    1958485 | 2025-02-22 18:03:19.371003+00
 https://slrpnk.net/u/redacted      |     1 |    1958485 | 2025-02-22 18:00:50.886344+00
 https://infosec.pub/u/redacted     |     1 |    1958485 | 2025-02-22 11:23:42.226386+00

 https://programming.dev/u/redacted |     1 |    1958643 | 2025-02-22 18:03:19.093138+00
 https://slrpnk.net/u/redacted      |     1 |    1958643 | 2025-02-22 18:00:50.944788+00
 https://infosec.pub/u/redacted     |     1 |    1958643 | 2025-02-22 11:57:14.571075+00

 https://infosec.pub/u/redacted     |     1 |    1958775 | 2025-02-22 12:18:29.561662+00
 https://slrpnk.net/u/redacted      |     1 |    1958775 | 2025-02-22 18:00:51.007097+00
 https://programming.dev/u/redacted |     1 |    1958775 | 2025-02-22 18:03:19.019653+00

 https://programming.dev/u/redacted |     1 |    1958789 | 2025-02-22 18:03:18.814704+00
 https://slrpnk.net/u/redacted      |     1 |    1958789 | 2025-02-22 18:00:51.063719+00
 https://infosec.pub/u/redacted     |     1 |    1958789 | 2025-02-22 12:20:44.963274+00

 https://slrpnk.net/u/redacted      |     1 |    1958826 | 2025-02-22 17:59:48.55791+00
 https://programming.dev/u/redacted |     1 |    1958826 | 2025-02-22 18:02:49.300343+00

 https://slrpnk.net/u/redacted      |     1 |    1958827 | 2025-02-22 18:00:16.302578+00
 https://programming.dev/u/redacted |     1 |    1958827 | 2025-02-22 18:03:20.336056+00

 https://slrpnk.net/u/redacted      |     1 |    1958832 | 2025-02-22 17:59:48.497287+00
 https://programming.dev/u/redacted |     1 |    1958832 | 2025-02-22 18:02:49.359749+00

 https://programming.dev/u/redacted |     1 |    1958871 | 2025-02-22 18:02:49.420568+00
 https://slrpnk.net/u/redacted      |     1 |    1958871 | 2025-02-22 17:59:48.43862+00

 https://slrpnk.net/u/redacted      |     1 |    1958873 | 2025-02-22 17:59:24.697018+00
 https://programming.dev/u/redacted |     1 |    1958873 | 2025-02-22 18:04:55.884635+00

 https://programming.dev/u/redacted |     1 |    1958875 | 2025-02-22 18:04:55.795094+00
 https://slrpnk.net/u/redacted      |     1 |    1958875 | 2025-02-22 17:59:24.792819+00

 https://slrpnk.net/u/redacted      |     1 |    1958877 | 2025-02-22 17:59:24.743799+00
 https://programming.dev/u/redacted |     1 |    1958877 | 2025-02-22 18:04:55.84273+00

 https://slrpnk.net/u/redacted      |    -1 |    1958982 | 2025-02-22 18:00:51.647423+00
 https://infosec.pub/u/redacted     |    -1 |    1958982 | 2025-02-22 12:55:05.047563+00

 https://programming.dev/u/redacted |     1 |    1959091 | 2025-02-22 18:03:18.551263+00
 https://infosec.pub/u/redacted     |     1 |    1959091 | 2025-02-22 12:55:40.650352+00
 https://slrpnk.net/u/redacted      |     1 |    1959091 | 2025-02-22 18:00:51.138157+00

The reason I'm bringing this up:

  1. Isn't this a problem? I get that it's hard (impossible) to prevent this type of thing, but it seems weird that the infosec.pub admins weren't into the idea of it being a problem when I pointed out this super-blatant instance of it to them. I do feel like dealing with blatant Lemmy-fraud when it happens is kind of a good instance hygiene type of thing to do.
  2. You should know that this user also talks pretty constantly about how the Democrats are bad, and anyone who votes for them is a fool, and Kamala Harris was the one who invaded Gaza, and so on. And they like using their multiple alts to upvote that content of their own. I feel like having that confluence pointed out is relevant.
  3. Is there something that I should be doing different than just pinging the admin and then moving on with my life if they don't do anything?

I can't exactly articulate why I feel like this is an issue, but I do. This also doesn't necessarily seem like the right place to post this, but also, I wasn't sure where to post it, and so...

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I just used "insomuch" in a comment elsewhere for some reason, paused, looked at the word, and had no idea what the fuck I just wrote.

Looked up the definition and I had used it correctly at least.

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quoting from a blog I've found this week through a link on lemmy ☞

Jaws? Gone. Chewing deprecated.

Mouths? Gone. Nutrition is delivered via IV. All communication is text-based.

Heads? Permanently tilted forward in screen-prayer. Cervical spine fused into gamer hunch.

Eyes? Massive, glassy orbs. Double eyelids evolved into mucus membranes for seamless TikTok consumption.

Fingers are long now. Disturbingly long. Dry, twitchy, curved for optimal touchscreen input.

We don't walk. We scoot. Legs are shrunken. Ankles fused. Technically functional, spiritually broken. Like a 2016 version of PHP.

We're pale, not ethereal, just unwell.

Hairless. Slick. No need for insulation when you never leave the pod.

Swollen asses. Reinforced tailbones. Biological seat cushions for lifelong sitting.

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A chance encounter/mini documentary about picking up a random hitchhiker, who turns out to be folk artist Micheal Hurley.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hurley_(musician)

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FYI: Alegria "Art", or the larger "Corporate Memphis" style is flat-color, anatomically-distorted slop associated with corporations and used by Facebook, Google and others.

Yes, I could make a community but I'm not here often enough to moderate one.

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I'm sure we all feel great seeing photos and videos of huge protests. This isn't accomplishing much. We need more. I don't know what that is. I just know that we need it.

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Barry Blitt, The New Yorker

Yep, still relevant!

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We all wish it could, but it can’t. I have a favourite example. One of Picasso’s greatest works, Guernica, was made shortly after the bombing of the town of Guernica in Spain by Franco, the fascist dictator and friend of Hitler’s. Picasso read about it and created this antiwar masterpiece from the images in his head. Afterwards, we had the bombing of Dresden, Nagasaki, Hiroshima and then 9/11. So if that scale of greatness can have no effect whatsoever, we need to realise the limitations of art and music.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/mar/20/steve-reich-we-all-wish-art-could-counter-the-direction-of-us-politics-but-it-cant

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