This is an automated archive made by the Lemmit Bot.
The original was posted on /r/geocaching by /u/Crispy_Fish_Legs on 2025-07-02 16:26:35+00:00.
For some reason I have found this more and more annoying recently.
At one of my local caches, an experienced geocacher logged the find and wrote this accompanying comment, “ . . . we came to look for it today and couldn’t find it. As it was missing we will claim a find here because we spent ages looking in all the holes.”
So basically they said they couldn’t find it but then went on to log it as found regardless. This geocacher has over 5200 finds recorded on their profile but I now wonder how many of those they did actually find. It’s my understanding that geocaching is not just a matter of being in the vicinity of the cache site - you're supposed to actually find it and sign the log in order to claim it as a find.
At another local cache I logged a DNF recently and requested owner maintenance – after which they archived the cache almost straight away. Looking back on the logs there were about 12 previous, consecutive visitors, over a six month period, all of whom logged it as found, despite writing in their comments (some more explicitly than others) that the cache wasn’t actually there.
So it appears that this behaviour is widespread.
I have about 1900 logs and about 170 DNFs – that’s about 9% of caches that I’ve tried to find have been DNFs. But I now wonder if I’m the only one doing this. Yes, I’ve heard the arguments about it not being all about the numbers; you’re only cheating yourself; play your own game; etc etc, but I find it very annoying. Why do people do this – what is their motivation? Not only will this lying affect their find count but will also affect any challenges, streaks etc that they may be partaking in. If this is widespread then we can no longer believe any of these reported figures any more.
I suppose there is a difference between not logging anything if you didn’t find it (i.e. not recording a DNF) and logging it as a find when it was obviously a DNF. (the latter feels more deceitful) If they didn’t actually find it then they could at least just write a note or not write anything, rather than just lying.
I view DNFs as a way of recording what happened, proving useful information to the cache owner and to future visitors, and just generally helping the local caching community. And on a similar theme, why are people so reluctant to flag caches for owner attention? If my DNF log follows a consecutive series of about 3 or 4 previous DNFs, then I will also flag it for owner attention so they can sort it, or, if they fail to do so, the local reviewer will eventually archive it. I see this as a way of clearing up the local map and getting rid of all those historical caches that are almost certainly not there anymore. But again, I hardly ever see anybody else doing this. Surely this functionally would not be available if it wasn’t intended to be used by geocachers?
OK rant over – maybe I’m just being unreasonable but hopefully I’m not alone in having this opinion and playing the game in this way.
https://preview.redd.it/7ybdkl1emhaf1.jpg?width=2480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef4d67ace4b41b27fbfff030d6b265cc00c67e7e