as I’ve said elsewhere, Pence didn’t go along with Trump because he’s not insane or an idiot. He knew better and is (and always has been) only in it of himself. It didn’t serve his interests and he has no real interest in helping Trump, and he knew it wouldn’t work and would land him in forever prison. It had nothing to do with doing the right thing.
whiskeypickle
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oh, no, I think you’re misunderstanding me— or maybe I should explain better. Pence certainly wound’t do any of this to help them but to help himself. I don’t think we can ever entirely know his motivations but can only approximate or triangulate them based on his past/current behaviors. Pence is a tremendously selfish and self-motivated person driven almost entirely by his own self-interest. He only seems to do anything at all if he thinks he can personally benefit— and, likewise, would not do something if it would be to his detriment.
So, if he does something like the other nutbags, their motivations wouldn’t be the same, just that he thought he could get something out of it. Likewise, he didn’t participate in the vote delegate bullshit Trump asked him to, not because he “believes in democracy” or the constitutional rule of law/transfer of power— it’s because he knew it was a harebrained scheme that would never work, and they’d all end up in jail or worse.
turns out it was the right decision.
oh, I’d expect Gaetz to outright lie on the stand, and wouldn’t be surprised if he’s done it many times already. McConnell and She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named? Well, he’s smarter than that, and she definitely isn’t. She’d blurt out the truth and get nailed for it!
Dick Cheney IS dead. that robot heart of his whooshing his blood around doesn’t count as life.
yeah, he hates trump, but he loves the GOP, and hurting Trump hurts the GOP.
and while I don’t think he’d hurt the prosecution, I have serious doubts as to how much he’d actually help them.
this is my take on what’s happening with him now: it’s political posturing. he knows he’s likely to be called at least for a deposition, and he’s getting in front of the media coverage by offering, or, at least, by saying he’d be cooperative. now, to a public audience, that can mean whatever we want it to mean, and to his base, that means he’s an angel who did nothing wrong, a patriot deserving of their vote. because he’s a law-abiding victim!
to the discerning listener, it’s a cover-his-ass declaration meaning nothing much now and whatever he wants it to mean later, especially if he changes his mind, as the legal and media landscape remains fluid between now and then. what will actually transpire? we’ll have to wait and see.
refusing to break the law wasn’t a pious act— he just didn’t want to face the consequences. I think he might have if he thought he could get away with it. I just don’t think he’s as stupid or delusional as Trump, et al.
but I am sure that he will testify truthfully.
I never said that I expect he’d commit perjury
his displayed pattern of behavior for the past several decades has been a hateful, self-serving scumbag. why would that suddenly change now?
he has a very high chance of dying quite soon, so there’s that!
he says that now… when the time comes, however, exactly what will his “compliance” look like?
sure, I believe he’d show up, but I also believe he’ll give mostly equivocations, pleas to the 5th, non-remembrances, and non-answer answers that mostly cover his own ass and deflect blame from the GOP than testimony that would give any real insight into or damning evidence against Trump or his co-conspirators.
If Pence had any desire to serve justice, he would have done so long, long ago.
well… he’s not a broken clock. he’s a self-serving asshole whose self-interest just so happened to coincidentally align with not destroying American democracy at that particular moment. it had nothing to do with anything but himself.
and THAT is what sucks the most, not to mention that people are praising him for it.