uniqueid198x

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[–] uniqueid198x 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So, the negotiation you think Ukraine should enter in to is a surrender to Russian terms?

[–] uniqueid198x 1 points 2 years ago (14 children)

So, the negotiation you think Ukraine should enter in to is a surrender to all Russian terms?

[–] uniqueid198x 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

If Ukraine doesn't get to negotiate, then why the calls for Ukraine to negotiate?

[–] uniqueid198x 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
  • Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, and Partnership between Ukraine and the Russian Federation
  • The Budapest Memorandum
  • The Sochi Accords
  • Treaty on the Russia-Ukraine State Border
  • The Minsk Agreement
  • The Second Minsk Agreement

Which of these was violated by Ukraine, and in what way?

A ceasefire in exchange for what? What does Ukraine give up for a ceasefire? What terms of a peace treaty do you think are benificial to the people of Ukraine?

[–] uniqueid198x 2 points 2 years ago (20 children)

As mentioned, Russia has a much longer history of violating agreements on Ukrainian borders. Why would this time be different?

And anyway what does Ukraine get from negotiations that it wouldn't get from Russian withdrawal?

[–] uniqueid198x 2 points 2 years ago (22 children)

How? There are many ways to do that.

Whats your actual suggestion that Ukraine shoule negotiate for?

[–] uniqueid198x 2 points 2 years ago (8 children)

You think Ukraine should enter into negotiations with Russia to throw all the libs in a pit?

Or do you have an actual suggestion of what Ukraine should negotiate for? What do the people of Ukraine get out af negotiating with Russia?

What guarentees do they get?

[–] uniqueid198x 2 points 2 years ago (24 children)

This isn't a suggestion, its a prompt. If this isn't the solution to end the killing, what is? Do you have an answer? What should Ukraine negotiate for?

[–] uniqueid198x 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Any promise is worth that? Even the unilateral withdrawal and disarmament of Russia? By Prolonging this conflict to achieve a goal, has Putin lost his humanity? Ending this conflict is as easy as Russia ending this conflict. But ending this conflict doesn't ssem to be worth a Russian withdrawal.

What should Ukraine negotiate for? What do they get beyone Russia doing the thing it should be doing anyway? What should they give up? And how should that be enforced, so that Russia doesn't ignore this treaty like they have every treaty on Ukrainian borders?

[–] uniqueid198x 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not suggesting any thing. I'm asking what the people calling for Ukrainian negotiation are asking for. So far, no answer has been given. Unless this is your actual answer, that Ukraine should enter into negotiations with Russia for the breakup of all NATO states, in which case I question how what Ukraine gets out of that and how Russia would make it happen.

Do you have an actuall suggestion af what Ukraine should negotiate for, and how the resulting treaty should be enforced?

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