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Don't mention it, thank you for pointing it out.

That's the woke mind virus taking control...

I edited it.

You could be right. It may be Windows 2000.

If you point boils down to: I never experienced this, therefore you must be lying; we can stop having this conversation.

I really do not appreciate the insinuations, particularly not "If the biggest hurdle you've ever experienced in unionizing an office is "tankies"". Have I said that? You have no basis for this claim and if you really want to question my union activities in order to score a point, that says more about you than me.

Internet communities where an administrator imposes some kind of auto-ban rule for using keywords they don't like. Or power users posting spam in the chats because they've got the tact of a ball-peen hammer.

Well, as I have done some modding here on Lemmy and previously Reddit, you can probably count me among one of those administrators/mods, because that's where I encountered many of them, apart from the particular incident in my previous comment.

The communities I have managed always had tight rules in regards to what was allowed and what was not. Yet far too many tankies did not care much about those rules at all. A particular favorite of the tankies was...

...and it was explicitly forbidden for anyone to use that. So guess, how much "fun" it was to argue with tankies in modmail why they were supposed to be allowed to use that term because they were "suffering under capitalism" and the users they argued with "deserved" to be called that.

It was not only the disregard for the rules that was aggravating, but their complete lack of empathy for whoever they argued with. They completely denied that other users could "suffer under capitalism" too, showing exactly the lack of empathy for others that I decried in my original comment.

You may have made different experiences, but these interactions and the previously mentioned unionization effort shaped my perception of tankies. And ultimately that's where things come down for me: If people cannot leave their ill behavior at the door and show no respect for others who may be in a similar situation as they are (let alone work with them), they do not deserve to be part of that community.

I am not going to respond to you in detail, because - I think - we mostly agree with each other, but allow me to explain where I am coming from with an anecdote: I was once part of a grassroots movement which aimed to unionize a particular sector of the entertainment industry. (Sorry, for being vague, even after all those years, the events are still a sore point for many involved.) There were a few hundred people taking part in all of this.

One chunk of people who joined the group were the worst kind of tankies who would hurl abuse at anyone who did not agree with them. The reasons for that behavior varied and ranged from the entirely trivial to the usual "Stalinism was great, anybody who says something different is a CIA plant."

One regular point of contention was tankies' demand to include praise for China in the group's official communications, which was way off topic for what the group was about. Of course, most of the group refused and - because the tankies were a very vocal minority, they could not ultimately prevent democratic decisions of the majority. Which - of course - annoyed them even more and created even more drama. Rinse and repeat.

The group ultimately imploded during the Black Lives Matter protests. One major reason for that was because the tankies prevented a statement of solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement. AFAIR the justification was something like "fighting racism is a distraction from the real struggle of the working class". Most of the PoCs left the group in exasperation because the group could not even speak out against racist police violence without the tankies completely derailing the proceedings.

The reason why I bring this up is because this was a group of workers who were actively working on organizing a worker's movement. But it was not enough for the tankies, they had to bring in their political sectarianism and demanding adherence to it, while simultaneously claiming that the others in the group did not represent workers like they did and thus the tankies were justified to pressure and abuse the other members until they agreed with the tankies' positions.

So yes, empathy cuts both ways. And I may have empathy for tankies on a personal level, but if people can't leave their ill behavior at the door and show solidarity towards their fellow workers when trying to get a grassroots movement off the ground, then these people have no place in it.

Of all the ideologies in the world, they chose communism. Why? Probably because they hurt. Because they saw the ugliness of capitalism and wanted something better. Because, at some point, they were moved by the idea that we could live without exploitation. [...] The pain turned inward, and now they lash out at anyone who doesn’t match their script. That’s not an excuse. But it is something to hold with empathy.

I wish I could easily subscribe to your call for empathy. The reason why I can't is because I have seen so many tankies deny the pain of others. It's not just the historical revisionism and the denial of Stalinist atrocities, but denying that people in the here and now are suffering like they do. Often this was tied to them insisting that they had every right to abuse others, because they themselves were suffering from capitalism. They completely failed to acknowledge that everyone around them was suffering under the very same conditions.

And there is the crux of the issue: One unspoken, implicit tenet of their beliefs is the denying others the same humanity they claim to uphold and represent. They demand to be accepted and their behavior to be tolerated, but will not grant the same basic rights to others.
The same notion allows them to deny the humanity of victims of Stalinist and Maoist terror.

And that's why I have a hard time to show them empathy, because I know they will not show the same empathy towards me.

Hey! Mod here! Sorry to intervene!

Your picture is more about being trans in general, than something that is specific to femcels. It would rather be something for the peeps over at [email protected]

To keep things on topic on FemCel Memes I locked this thread.

Thanks for your understanding.

The NYT had an article from 2006 which described a very similar "training". It goes into greater detail. Here is an archived version without paywall: https://archive.ph/n4GPa

It all may sound like a great big bucket of bad news for the car company, but the stock market has a different take. "If this is the worst it gets for Tesla, then certainly there must be some upside for the stock once tailwinds, such as the highly-awaited cheaper model and the Robotaxi, finally hit the market later this year," wrote Thomas Monteiro, senior analyst at investing .com.

Quote from this article by Ars Technica

I am not posting this because I think it makes any sense. It only makes sense if you are a rich person with way too much money to be bothered by Elon Musk's track record of just making shit up.