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Holy shit REAL

I completely get the stance you have. I just can't agree with the view that the instances are as bad as fascist instances. I mean some of the communities there definitely express heinous views don't get me wrong, but they're a leftist instance with many different types of leftism. There's the extremist "tankie" communities (one might call them) with all the Russian and North Korean apologia (yes, internet MLs think North Korea is free and democratic), then there's most of the rest of the instance with well-adjusted but very leftist views. This goes for .ml and hexbear but, I haven't seen much of anything other than authoritarian communism on lemmygrad so I can't say anything positive about that.

I think most instances have their extremely problematic areas that those admins don't see as problems, and we have to weigh whether those problems are serious enough to cause major problems for lemm.ee. Seemingly in our admins' opinions, and my opinion, hexbear and .ml are easily dealt with by just blocking them. I have seen a ton of cryptofascists and actual pedophiles from some other specific large instances (cough .world), and while I certainly put some blame on the instance admins for catering towards people with those views somewhat, I don't want to defederate from them. There's tons of good reason to federate with .world, and tons of good reason to federate with .ml, and with hexbear. They all contribute a lot of non-political stuff to my feed. Hexbear has probably the best trans communities along with blahaj.zone, probably like 1/3 of the posts in my feed are from .ml plus .world.

IMO, since there are a lot of instances that defederate those instances already, the classic use of the Fediverse is to have your account on one of those instances. Or to block the instance if you don't want to go that far. I go on lemm.ee specifically so I can see all the fediverse has to offer without having to change between a bunch of different accounts because of defederation. I don't want the LGBT and leftist communities I participate in to be blocked because a bunch of guys in the instance have really bad opinions. Unless they're spreading abuse content or something, I'd probably rather be able to see the instance.

Sorry for the wall of text, but defederation is an important topic that affects everyone on the site, I think it should have a lot of elaboration.

...? I'm confused. Is ani.social a Nazi/anti-Palestine instance? I've had a total of 2 interactions with people from there mentioning Germany denying Israeli war crimes, and both of those people happened to be pro-ethnostate and immediately went the genocide denial route. I guess weebs on Lemmy are just as conservative as weebs on Reddit or something

Edit: Oh, it's mostly porn/erotic content and talking about erotic content in anime... so it's literally just the Reddit anime communities, but on the fediverse. Welp, that's enough Lemmy for today

And genocide denial is illegal in Germany, many other EU countries followed that, but the majority of instances host with Hezner, wich has servers in Germany, so its legally problematic for EU hosted instances. https://www.dw.com/en/germany-criminalizes-denying-war-crimes-genocide/a-63834791

Huh. Well considering the actions of the German government this past year, I doubt they'll be doing much about genocide denial this time around.

This alleged holocaust denial though... you've piqued my interest. Lemmygrad, being an extremely communist instance, is almost always vocal about how the Nazis did a lot of genocide. It'd be weird for that to be there without immediately being removed by mods. Do you have any examples or quotes, perchance? I haven't had a particularly good experience with lemmygrad users on average, but this would definitely take the cake.

As for Hexbear brigading, that actually was apparently an issue for lemm.ee a long time ago. But the admins talked with the hexbear admins and were able to get it resolved. At least, on lemm.ee communities, hexbear users seem to be following the rules – usually it's lemmy.world users breaking the rules sitewide (usually for transphobia, very recently some prominent users there were promoting pedophilia). But I think lemm.ee doesn't ban users much regardless unless they're extraordinarily uncivil and cartoonishly evil. There's not even a modlog that I can find (pretty weird not to have a mod log).

For a lot of English speakers, the "had" and "have" in contractions is completely omitted in certain contexts. It's more prevalent in some dialects (I'm in the south US and it's more common than not). Usually "had" is dropped more than "have".

Also, English can drop the pronoun, article, and even copula for certain indicative statements. I think it's specifically for observations, especially when the context is clear.

looking at someone's bracelet "Cool bracelet." [That's a]

wakes up "sigh Gotta get up and go to work..." [I've]

"Ain't no day for picking tomatoes like a Saturday." [There]

"No war but class war!" [There's]

"Forecast came in on the radio. Says there's gonna be a hell of a lot of rain today." [It said -> Says/Said]

"Can't count the number of Brits I've killed. Guess I'm just allergic to beans on toast." [I; I]

"House came tumblin' down after the sinkhole opened up" [The]

"I'd" can be "I would", mainly if used with a conditional or certain conjunctions/contrastive statements (if, but, however, unfortunately). Also when preceding "have" – e.g. "I'd have done that". Because "I had have" doesn't make sense, nor does "I had " anything. "I'd" as in "I had" is followed by a past participle.

"I'd" is usually "I had" otherwise, forming the past perfect tense. But in "I'd better", it's a bit confusing because "had better" is used in a different sense – the "had" here comes from "have to" (as in "to be necessary to") and can be treated as both a lexical verb and an auxiliary verb. "had better" is a bit of a leftover of more archaic constructions.

Ok I said I was done with talking but this comment in particular is funny. You're really that extremely against the SPD and the German left huh...

After the rise of the Nazi Party to power, the SPD was the only party present in the Reichstag to vote against the Enabling Act of 1933; the SPD was subsequently banned, and operated in exile as the Sopade.

Maybe you're the Nazi if we think about it ;) After all, you're on the side of modern genocide. Have you considered that the Nazis got into power because of the centrists, the people "left nor right", refusing to take a stance against Nazism, instead fearmongering over the woke socialists and justifying the rise in power of the right as the left "pushing too far" and being "too radical"? You know, basic civil rights and all that extremist Marxist stuff.... Pretty analogous to what people like you are doing today, don't you think? "Oh what was left extremism then is fine, but what's left extremism now is the end of humanity".

Not that I disagree much of the modern SPD is pieces of shit. Because of their anti-Palestinian rhetoric and lack of action against Russia, not because of their "wokeness". But that's the entire German government, not localized to them.

But okay, okay, now I promise I really won't make a snarky response to your blatantly defamatory insults again. Go off on me. Call me those slurs you were saying were completely fine to use.

Look, I don't know the federation rules of ani.social. But our instance, lemm.ee, has defederated literally only 3 instances. IIRC 2 of them are borderline CSAM instances, and the other one is threads.net. The instance intentionally has lenient rules on this stuff – defederation doesn't happen unless there's a massive issue of rule-breaking in lemm.ee caused by the other instance (e.g. spam/brigading) which can't be resolved with diplomacy between admins. Hence defederation being considered the last resort.

Also I'm not so sure about the claim that denying the Uyghur genocide and saying they think certain other things are genocide (don't know what you're referring to here though) is illegal in the EU.

Jesus Christ my guy. If you willingly look at all this, the history and facts of what Israel did and continues to do to Palestinians, and you still willingly go with the narrative that Israel isn't an ethnostate and isn't committing acts of Genocide, then there is no saving you. The Scholz ministry's propoganda has gone way up there in your head.

Nazis and alt-right nutjobs own the word "woke" as an insult. Being labelled "woke" is a badge of honor, all things considered, because it tells you that the right-wing lunatics really don't like you. You might want to change your strategy because it's genuinely funny to most people when someone uses it as an insult. It sounds like a parody of conservatives from 2014 YouTube. It's even amplified by you apparently thinking linguists (humanities specialists?) are some type of woke lesser.

I'm done with this conversation man. You're going to stay stuck in the 19th century for the rest of your life.

Mein Gott, du bist also im Grunde genommen einfach ein Neokonservativer. Ich bin Linguist und ich kann dir garantieren, dass die Anzahl der Menschen, die das grammatische Geschlecht abschaffen wollen, auf ein paar unbedeutende Leute im Internet beschränkt ist.

Slurs sollten nicht benutzt werden. Punkt. Dass du denkst, tatsächliche Slurs seien in Ordnung, es sei denn, sie sind spezifisch das N-word oder so etwas, sagt viel über dich als Person aus. Offenbar ist dir das Wohl von queeren Menschen nicht besonders wichtig, wenn du es schlecht findest, dass man Menschen daran hindert, Beleidigungen gegen sie zu verwenden.

Die Menschheit wird wahrscheinlich innerhalb der nächsten drei Jahrzehnte wegen des Klimawandels ins Chaos stürzen, und du regst dich über die Leute auf, die Alarm schlagen? Hast du keinen Anstand?? Es ist über ein halbes Jahrhundert her, dass Wissenschaftler und Klimaaktivisten angefangen haben, lautstark auf das drohende Unheil durch den Klimawandel hinzuweisen, aber niemand hört zu. Die Leute kümmern sich nicht um Proteste, wenn diese niemanden stören. Die einzige Aktion, die jemals zu ernsthaften Veränderungen geführt hat, ist die, die den Frieden stört. Wenn ignorante Menschen wütender über einen verdammten Kuchen sind, der auf eine Glasabdeckung geworfen wird, als darüber, dass die Erde in Flammen aufgeht, dann ist das ihr eigenes Problem. Es gibt nichts mehr zu verlieren, wenn man die Leute wütend macht; wir erleben bereits ein Massensterben der meisten Arten auf dem Planeten.

Übrigens, Deutschland ist nicht das einzige Land auf der Welt, und die Berliner Mauer war nicht die einzige soziale Barriere, die existierte. Versuche nicht, die Kämpfe anderer zu minimieren, nur weil du denkst, dass dein Land der Mittelpunkt der Welt ist. Der Progressivismus hat nicht aufgehört, sich weiterzuentwickeln, als Deutschland wiedervereint wurde. Besonders wenn es um LGBTQ-Rechte geht – die Ehe für alle wurde in Deutschland erst 2017 legalisiert, und in Italien ist sie immer noch illegal. Es gibt derzeit einen Trend zu Antitransgesetzgebungen in der westlichen Welt. Ihr Leute wollt so tun, als hätten benachteiligte Gruppen Gleichberechtigung, nur weil Bürgerrechtsgesetze verabschiedet wurden, aber das ist eine Lüge. Du hast nicht mit den sozialen Problemen zu kämpfen, denen diese Gruppen ausgesetzt sind, und trotzdem glaubst du, ihnen sagen zu können, dass ihr Kampf vorbei ist. Du bist ein verdammter Feigling, weil du die Kämpfe dieser Menschen minimierst und auf 'die Gender-Irren' reduzierst. Und du bist ein Feigling, weil du den Völkermord an den Palästinensern im letzten Jahrhundert rechtfertigst, während du dich hinter der Lüge versteckst, dass Angriffe auf Israel «Antisemitismus» seien. Und für all die anderen Gruppen, über die du dich beschweren musst, sei es Einwanderer, Klimaaktivisten, was auch immer. Du bist auf den konservativen Empörungs-Köder hereingefallen und glaubst jetzt ihren Kulturkriegsmüll.

The worst part is his comments were upvoted a lot when I commented that... there's probably a few chaps who have the impression that everyone on the furry instances is the reincarnation of Lenin now lol

Wenn du glaubst, dass die progressiven Ansichten deiner Vergangenheit besser sind als der heutigen progressiven, dann sei es so. Aber das macht dich nicht viel besser als einen Konservativen. Zu glauben dass du zu einer besseren ««alten Linken»» gehörst, weil du nicht akzeptieren kannst, dass alle Menschen soziale Befreiung verdienen, macht dich einfach unreif.

Oh and there are instances that just practice full free speech as long as its not illegal where they host LW bans people for speaking the truth, especially regarding Israel vs Russia and Iran(by proxy)

I have not seen a SINGLE one of those instances. And my instance federates with literally everything except for like 3 instances. I'm not saying you're making things up, but outside of extreme fringe communities, almost every (large) Lemmy instance is as "woke" or more "woke" than lemmy.world. lemmy.blahaj.zone, lemm.ee, lemmy.ml, probably even sh.itjust.works (that one's debatable), lemmy.dbzer0.com, sopuli.xyz... I can go on and on. Leftism is way more prevalent in most of those. And yes, the kind that says you shouldn't displace millions or be sexist.

The new left is the Israel hating crowd of the left

A large chunk of the left has always been anti-Zionism and pro-self-determination, because Israel is literally modern-day colonization. This isn't anything new. The official government of Palestine is full-on Socialist, and it was founded 80 years ago (with other major leftist groups in Palestine dating back even before the Israeli colonization). It's just the difference between the "leftists" who are okay with an ethnostate perpetrating an ethnic cleansing (Israel), and the leftists who aren't.

because its against imperialism or something stupid along those lines.

For a lot of people that's part of the reason, but most of the reason is they're against the displacement, ethnic cleansing, and genocide of Palestinians that started during the colonization of the area by modern-day Israelis. The ruling party of Israel and most of the other parties in the government are descended from organizations that literally described themselves as terrorists, and butchered the population of Palestine since the early 1900s. And, get this, the dominating organizations during this era aligned themselves with Nazism – the Lehi (a faction of the Irgun, modern day Likud – Netanyahu's party and Israel's dominant party) proposed an alliance with Nazi Germany as they saw Great Britain as a larger threat to Jews. They described themselves and their members, I'm not even joking, as "National Bolshevik terrorists" (nazbols/communist nazis). Go figure.

Many of the members of government actively cheered on or committed genocide, and everyone alive knows someone who participated in the displacement and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. The area didn't just go from its population of 90% Muslim and 2% Jewish in 1800, to 81% Muslim and 8% Jewish in 1890, to 32% Jewish in 1947, to 89% Jewish in 1948 (the year the Nakba/ethnic cleansing of Arabs started), using kind words and diplomacy. (Jewish Virtual Library). Europeans encouraged Jews to colonize the area (which hadn't been populated by Jews in large numbers since the 5th century) in order to get them out of the country (the early British Zionists in particular were keen on taking all the Jews in the UK and shipping them off to Israel, as antisemitism was the norm in western Europe until the whole World War 2 thing), and gave those newfound Israelis the weapons to blow up a whole lot of natives. These migrations were simply called Aliyah, and they happened in a few waves.

It is a state that is built upon, and cannot exist without, "Jewish supremacy". It's in the constitution, it's in the law, it's in their flag, it's in the Muslims & Arabs in the country not having the civil rights of Jews, the entirety of Israel exists specifically to be an ethnostate. And the foundation of Israel was by parties who aligned themselves with Nazi Germany, and who took great inspiration from them.

When you're "leftist" – that is, when you're for abolishing unjust hierarchies and moving towards social equality – the concept of Israel and its former and current actions is inherently counter to your ideology. There's absolutely no getting around that.

Oh also they are hyper sensitive regarding the use of words they feel like it could hurt someone, and im not talking about the n-word or similarly high grade insults.

What words are these, exactly? If they're not slurs then I don't see what you're talking about. Unless you're referring to people talking about microaggressions – which is the linguistic phenomenon of biases against certain social groups being conveyed in language, which propogates harmful beliefs. You know, saying women or asians can't drive well, saying you wouldn't want to have a woman perform surgery on you, saying a guy hugging another guy is gay... obviously those are pretty shitty things to say.

Im politically Old left, workers unions, reasonable climate policies, inclusiveness where it is necessary and reasonable and so on, these people in the "woke" spectrum are usually the people that pipeline people to the right with their unintelligent and crazy behavior.

Yeah nah man you're waffling. There is no "old left". The left is more or less the same philisophy-wise; there are socially conservative people and socially progressive people – you, my friend, seem to be describing yourself as a mildly socially conservative social democrat. There's nothing more old or authentic or original about your philosophy – it's just German centrism.

And woke is just a good fitting therm for the new left idiots, because these people made this therm about themselves.

The usage of the term in the social progressive context literally dates back to the 1930s. That's almost certainly older than even your parents. How can you claim that that's characteristic of the "new left" when it's been around in use longer than your country's even existed?