We're not talking about ADAS in general, we're talking about what Tesla is selling.
silvercove
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There is no doubt that one day these systems will be so good that they will make transportation much safer. But there is no data that shows that we're already there.
Give me a breakn The WaPo article is linked above. Also, when it comes to safety, the burden of proof is on those arguing that something is safe.
Are you kidding me? I never said it will never work. But that does not mean its current state is safe to trust your life.
Exactly. Driver assist features.
Except Tesla isn't selling them as such. Theid advertisement videos as early as 2016 say "the driver is not necessary, the car is driving itself". This is false marketing in its purest and simplest form: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jan/17/tesla-self-driving-video-staged-testimony-senior-engineer
There are very strict regulations around what is allowed to be in the streets and what isn't. This is what protects us from sloppy companies releasing unsafe stuff in the streets.
Driver assist features like the Autopilot are operating in a regulatory grey zone. The regulation has not caught up with technology and this allows companies like Tesla to release unsafe software in the streets, killing people.
Andy Jassy seems like an incompetent version of Jeff Besos.
Why would Tesla release any numbers that would make it look bad?
but they’ve also saved numerous lives by preventing accidents from occurring in the first place.
There is no data to make this claim. You're just making this up.
You can't just put something on the streets without first verifying it's safe and working as intended. This is missing for Autopilot. And the data that's piling up is showing that Autopilot is deadly.
that the biggest challenge for autonomous vehicles is humans doing unpredictable and stupid shit
The biggest challenge when I'm driving is humans or AI doing unpredictable and stupid shit.
You still have not given any numbers to back up your claim. While we all expect that AI will one day be much better than humans in driving, there is no data to say that it currently is.
Stop talking nonsense. The anecdotes that are piling up clearly indicate there is a problem with Tesla's autopilot.