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Asking to reference a lack of ambiguity

I haven't asked to reference a lack of ambiguity, I've asked for a reference to some source showing "the rest of the media and even fararge" see things the way you do, as you claim.

You haven't provided any reference to back up anything whatsoever you've said in this thread.

After I have posted multiple explanations

As I said, your explanations are irrelevant to me. They're full of holes. From my perspective, you're not a rigorous thinker. The only thing that will convince me is some other source which clearly shows that the agreement is referring to domestic sales. Without that, all I see is noise.

I ment you are seeing ambiguity that is not there.

I disagree.

The rest of the media and even fararge in another news article last night.

I haven't seen any of that. Other people haven't experienced the same things you have. Other people don't have the same knowledge you do. That's why it's on you to back up what you're saying by showing others what you experienced (read, watched, whatever) so that they can verify that what you're saying is true. It isn't on other people to experience their life the way you experience yours and you can't assume that they do.

They see no abniguity in this meaning

Reference?

And you you did suggest a meaning, when you openly interpreted the article as a good benefit of Brexit.

I initially interpreted the article differently to you but I didn't make any explicit suggestion of what "dynamic alignment on EU food standards" means. You did and continue to.

So you invested that meaning to make your rather pathetic point about the deal matching some Brexit benefit.

I don't even understand what you're claiming here. I haven't made any point about the deal "matching" some brexit benefit, whatever that means.

I made a very clear pretty close to ELI5 maybe 10.

I'm not asking for you to explain anything. I'm expecting you to back up what you're saying with references to information elsewhere. This is how rigorous debate and communication works. This is basic stuff. If you can't back up what you're saying then don't bother saying anything, you're just making noise.

Unless you have some source which clearly states that "dynamic alignment on EU food standards" relates to domestic sales then to me, what you're saying is just an unverified guess. An opinion. Of no value. Noise.

You are asking for ambiguity

Eh?

You have to be pretty fucking stupid to keep insisting that dose not relate to domestic sales.

I haven't insisted that.

What the fuck else do you think standards aligned actually means.

I'm not making any claim about what it means, you are. It's on you to show that what you're saying is true.

Alignment of UK food standards.

Doesn't contain the words "domestic sales" and is ambiguous and open to interpretation.

Means our own standards must continue to meet the EUs.

I couldn't find any explanation of what this means, or the text of the agreement. How have you determined that "standards" relate to domestic sales?

Yes it dose just not in ELI5 language.

I think you're confusing "ELI5 language" and "clear, unambiguous language".

The translate option is at the bottom of the sidebar.

Thanks but unfortunately I can't see that because there's a big grey box covering the bottom of the page containing some text in a language I don't understand. I think its a cookie banner.

Use the translator in the sidebar to translate the page.

I don't see a sidebar or any way to translate the page.

That's a tree.

runs

Yes you have. That's what you said.

LOL bye now

You know all of the promises that Boris Johnson the enormously deceitful individual gave.

No. I didn't pay any attention to the brexit campaigning. I'd been arguing to leave the EU for years before all that nonsense happened. Why on Earth anyone would pay any attention to anything Johnson says, ever, is beyond me.

How are we better out of the EU than we are in it if our biggest trading partner remains the EU

There's more to life and government than just trade. If you want to know some of my arguments for why we're better off out of the EU, I'll repurpose a previous comment:

For a start it means that the structure of the government better reflects the concerns of the population. The EU never really made much of a dent in the consciousness of Britons. I expect the number of citizens who knew the name of their MEP off the top of their head would be dwarfed by the number of citizens who knew the name of their MP. This is in comparison to continental countries, particularly in my mind Germany, where the EU, EU political parties and MEPs are very much present in the minds of the electorate. At least, that was my experience.

Also, in my view the EU is quite undemocratic. The separate Council, Commission and Parliament are an affront. Especially the fact that the Parliament, which represents the electorate, does not have the power to introduce legislation. The people are an inconvenient afterthought in the EU power structure. Here's Yanis Varoufakis when he was finance minister for Greece back when they had their economic meltdown, talking about the impending referendum on whether to accept European proposals regarding Greece's debt: [in the event that the referendum accepts the European proposals] "I am not going to impede its progress through parliament. This is my commitment to democracy and my commitment to the people, that I have entrusted with the decision, with the verdict of yes/no, or no, in a way that has incensed my colleagues in the Euro group who don't believe that 'such complex matters', as I've been told, 'should be put to common folk'." -- https://youtu.be/OmqnYHmRg48?t=625 That, to me, is the EU. The British people are better off out of it.

EU Regional Development Funds are another horror. They're run by unelected bureaucrats, stepping on the toes of existing, democratically elected regional institutions like.. councils. Instead of giving hundreds of millions to councils for development projects, or even creating larger regional institutions with democratically elected leadership, someone thought it would be a good idea to give those millions to unelected bureaucrats to spend in the same area. I'm still mystified as to how this ever came to pass. Brexit couldn't come soon enough.