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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If you can't review a bash script before running it without having an unnecessarily complex one-liner provided to you

Providing an easily copy-and-pastable one-liner does not imply that the reader could not themselves write such a one-liner.

Having the capacity to write one's own commands doesn't imply that there is no value in having a command provided.

unnecessarily complex

LOL

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Showing people that are running curl piped to bash the script they are about to run doesn't really accomplish anything. If they can read bash and want to review the script then they can by just opening the URL

What it accomplishes is providing the instructions (i.e. an easily copy-and-pastable terminal command) for people to do exactly that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Non voters cannot be counted as objectors or supporters.

We don't have to count them as anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

72% is actually a huge turnout compared to pretty much any vote in the last 50 years

That doesn't contradict anything I said.

As such they must be assumed to divide as the vote was.

This is a non sequitur.

Regardless, OP was talking about votes explicitly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Being a celebrity isn’t the point here.

Being a celebrity is the point here.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Have you eaten at one of his restaurants?

Nope. Nor would I. From what little I've seen of him, I wouldn't go anywhere near the guy nor any of his businesses.

I find it bizarre that you discount an expert opinion because the expert is famous.

I find it bizarre that you find that bizarre. I don't watch TV. To me you seem like a weirdo TV slave, obeying the TV masters who dole out mediocre entertainment and call it "culture". I suppose you vote as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He's arguably one of the most knowledgeable people alive when it comes to culinary arts.

How have you determined this?

Edit: did you perhaps mean "on TV"?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

linux culture

snigger

you're teaching newbies the wrong lessons

The problem is not that it's teaching bad lessons, it's that it's actually doing bad things.

most people can parse that they're essentially asking you to run some commands at a url

I know not to take it completely literally

Then it needn't be written literally.

I think you're giving the authors of such installation instructions too much credit. I think they intend people to take it literally. I think this because I've argued with many of them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Saved that, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (9 children)

You have the option of piping it into a file instead, inspecting that file for yourself and then running it, or running it in some sandboxed environment.

That's not what projects recommend though. Many recommend piping the output of an HTTP transfer over the public Internet directly into a shell interpreter. Even just

curl https://... > install.sh; sh install.sh

would be one step up. The absolute minimum recommendation IMHO should be

curl https://... > install.sh; less install.sh; sh install.sh

but this is still problematic.

Ultimately, installing software is a labourious process which requires care, attention and the informed use of GPG. It shouldn't be simplified for convenience.

Also, FYI, the word "option" implies that I'm somehow restricted to a limited set of options in how I can use my GNU/Linux computer which is not the case.

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