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Sorry: the entire area demarcates the greatest extent of Ukraine's advance into Kursk (according to this source, @Kalibrated_Maps). Blue is the area still held by Ukraine. Orange is the area formerly held by Ukraine, now liberated by Russia. Take with a pinch of salt given bias, fog of war, etc.

Kursk salient is now looking to be fucked...

The other option is for Russia to give them (they're both already under unprecedented sanctions), but while Pariah countries have been forging closer ties recently, they're still far from the no limits cooperation required. China especially is still enjoying western relations with relatively few economic barriers. That may change in the near future; western economies do depend on China but never underestimate their willingness to blow their own feet off to put China down. I imagine multipolarisation will accelerate dramatically if/when China comes under the same level of sanctions as Iran, Russia, and the DPRK.

Lol this is hexbear I'm not falling for that shit. Fool me once, shame on... shame on you...

@Kalibrated_Maps on twitter suggests that something like 25% of the Kursk salient has been liberated by Russia. Note that other maps show a larger salient and less Russian gains (bias, fog of war, etc.)

Sorry, I didn't realize that you were the only one allowed to post here, or that every comment had to be a hive-minded positive historical monograph. I thought that 'news' included bad news as well as good, and that acknowledging defeats was both healthy and important. Obviously I was mistaken, and that dissenting opinions are not allowed.

(P.S., if you disagree, you are allowed to say so without telling others not to post; that's what comments are for...)

It's not impossible but honestly when people say this it just sounds like Russian cope. It might be decades before we know the truth from memoirs and leaks. That Russia "did not deploy even 10% of the troops that would require" is perfectly consistent with the idea that they intended to capture the hostemel airfield with a small team of crack troops so that they could fly a shit ton more troops in and land them at the airfield, but that failed because the Ukrainians rendered the airfield unusable. I.e., they didn't deploy enough troops because their plan to fly more troops in failed. I don't think it's necessarily a western narrative to say that Russia underestimated Ukraine (ex-Soviet after all) and how much western ghouls would pour weapons to literal nazis there. Russia is now clearly winning but I doubt the current situation was what they had in mind, hence the withdrawals and change in strategy.

Love this lol but I'd say the failure is more than 'minor'.

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Sigh, it's true; I'm sick of talking to blood-sucking lawyers.

Thanks for your reply, egg1918.

Edit: Thanks for your edit, egg1918.