nothx

I have never lived anywhere else besides the east coast, but I run into enough Silicon Valley types due to my jobs, they are on another level.

Yeah, I specifically avoid that sentiment because I cannot control the way things I say will be interpreted. I would much rather keep my mouth shut because I'm not in the business of unintentionally offending people I care about.

Instead I try to convey it through the lens of my own experience to talk about the fears I have that lead me to feel how I do. Like how concerned I am about what is the next evil thing we are okay with now that we as a society have effectively given a pass to genocide enablers again.

Yeah, that is the major sticking point I have seen as well. Which I understand except for the other things you just laid out. I can't comfortably trust that anyone of these ghouls is going to do right by citizens.

I made the point today actually that I am honestly concerned where we go from here now that as a society we have pretty much accepted genocide.

I don't think so... Most of them are too lazy and complacent to do that, they think exercising their civic duty of voting is enough.

And they just roll their eyes and fucking act like they're so morally superior your real world examples don't count.

UUUUUUUGH!

Yeah its the smugness that gets me the most. Especially my debate lord friends where I almost hear the deep inhale they take before spouting off about the systemic limits.... Of systems they refuse to uproot out of fear of losing access to amazon prime.

Yeah, I have no intention of cutting ties with them, but have realized that holding my tongue will do wonders for my own mental health as well as the relationships that are based on more than just politics. Like I have said, I dont keep many people around me that dont believe in the same core values, it's just that i put more weight on them in my day to day life. I love treats as much as the next lib, but I don't willfully ignore the damage done in the process of getting the treats. I act in a way to limit that damage even if it means less treats.

Joining an org is an option, would need to be more digital tho, I dont like the public lol.

It's frustrating and disheartening. We used to see eye to eye on most things, but the tinge of fear has reacted differently in us. I became way more radicalized about the declining state of affairs since the beginning of COVID, most of the people around me found easy scapegoats and then moved on as soon as they could.

fuckin a... I have very similar conversations over here too. Victim blaming the disenfranchised and touting an aura of superiority over the "dumb magas"

i die a little inside when people try to absolve Kamala of the crimes of Joe... I tried to make the point that her being a part of the administration means she supports it, there is no nuance imo.

Yeah, I'm taking a less extreme option of avoiding certain topics that I know will scratch them. I am not excusing their bad opinions, I'm just not interested in the circular conversations and eventual belittling of my "unrealistic" or "Idealist" expectations anymore.

he genocide in the Middle East has been more galvanizing than most and I really can't engage honestly with those who downplay it to save their own asses from an imagined genocide of their comfortable, financially secure, upper income asses within the highly developed core. like, sorry reality can't compete with the untethered nightmares of libs.

Exactly this, I am very hung up, and rightfully so, on the fact that America is aiding and abetting atrocities right now, live on TV. That doesn't mean I think the threat on other marginalized groups is less important. Yes, I think that right wing american politicians are edging at the idea of waging war against LGBTQ people, and thats why I am critical of both mainstream parties. However, the libs think that being critical of democrats will further erode the faith people have in them and drive them towards the republicans.

100%

It takes a special kind of cynicism (which i have attained) to understand that most people gives a shit about each other, especially the people with any sort of power.