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I’m too tired to really frame this in a coherent way but this is an example of how class influences politics. Boomers feel this way because to them politics is just something to chat about: both parties are dedicated to upholding capitalism and the class structure, including the international system of exploitation, that benefits them, so to the boomers there really is no significant difference, just minor details, so why get so worked up about it? Younger people who are equally well-off might interact with politics as a source of entertainment and develop fandoms around certain teams, but boomers are simply grill-pilled (this is the true horseshoe theory)

I know this

Sorry I think I misunderstood your previous comment

Sounds like people are jumping from “sublingual gives you higher e2 levels” to “oral is useless” which is just not true. Could also be a reaction to doctors not knowing any better and not telling patients they can take it sublingually

Oral estradiol does actually have a higher risk than non-oral because of some reactions that occur in the liver, but it is still much safer than the older conjugated estrogens and not really that dangerous (as that study shows)

Yeah I’m sure that is the best available data (or close to it) it just sucks that the cis medical establishment treats trans healthcare this way

Yeah, sublingual is more effective than oral at getting the estrogen into your bloodstream, but estrogen is estrogen^1^ and oral is convenient and good enough for a lot of people. Also I’m pretty sure the pills are marketed as being for oral and that might be what the doctor is assuming people are doing

^1^ yeah yeah e2 vs e1 and all that, the important part is if your estradiol (e2) levels are high enough (for you) and for a lot of people oral can achieve that

Down with cis

Up with trans

Fwiw I did pop an estrogen like an hour or three before this, they have never asked me not to.

Maybe they don’t know you’re taking it sublingually? With oral I don’t think it matters as much since the blood levels don’t change as rapidly

The neat thing is that I bet those studies included trans women on oral e, which has a higher risk of blood clots since it’s processed by the liver. So the actual risk of blood clots for people on sublingual or other methods is probably lower

the Men’s Health Issue of AACC’s journal Clinical Chemistry

:sicko-sad: (i never remember the name of this one)

Who knows!