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Oh I should add, there's actually a lemmy instance for highlighting the insane and horrible shit that comes from this group.

[email protected] is how I link I think.

the nyt really wants you to know that ziz is trans. Surely innocent reasons for that given the nyt's reasonable past positions on trans people right?

this article sucks, Ziz and zizians are just another classic cult spun out of a movement that is profoundly alienating, abusive, and impervious to criticism. It's not the first time rationalism has gotten people killed (https://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/the-beigeness-or-how-to-kill-people-with-bad-writing-the-scott-alexander-method is a good break down of the problematic attitudes and how they tie in to a tragic suicide) and it wont be the last.

Robert Evans did a reasonable deep dive into these people on his podcast behind the bastards if you want some better coverage that explores the cult dynamics more.

If you just want a crash course: Rationalism is a terrible hyper capitalist, white, male, anti humanities framework of ideas which starts with the premise that you, the reader, are inherently super smart for stumbling into them and wanting to learn how to be more smarter. There are like 5 big personalities who are all the smartest and because they are the smartest, and being the smartest necessarily means you think the most goodliest, and thinking the most goodliest means you can't be wrong, and you should ignore all prior human philosophy and just study them. Absorb so much baffling jargon that the obviousness of the bits that are genuinely good is obscured and the nasty ideas can slide right in without triggering alarm bells. Soon you'll be complete incomprehensible to normal people, and morally revolting to anyone who isn't a rationalist. Don't worry though, they're waiting with open arms to explain why being racist is really important for stopping the machine Satan apocalypse.

Maybe not, ostensibly if you're persecuted you could seek asylum and you're probably a lot less likely to be killed overall.

I defs wouldn't give my life to defend people that don't respect me. Conscription is a crime against humanity at the best of times but conscripting people without full rights is straight up evil.

Imagine getting conscripted to die for a government that doesn't even think you're fully human...

Lol, I don't blame them.

These machines aren't good. I'm a curious person, I check things out. They're fascinating toys, it's amazing to see a computer do such a convincing mimicry of speech. However I've tried using them for the things the companies spruke and they suck.

Talking to them is more lonely than just voicing my thoughts to the birds in the garden; there's no person there just sycophantic affirmation. I have disasterously low self esteem and even I'm beyond that.

You can't learn about topics because they will bullshit in exactly the same authoritative tone they'll dispense incredible insight. You hire teachers not for the facts, but the effort spent organising and filtering them. A textbook can easily be pirated in most fields you're interested in (fuck academic publishing lmao) and is a much better use for your time. If you're in a hurry just be wrong about something on stack exchange or a subreddit :p Honestly even searching for random badly edited youtube videos usually yields more reliable info if you're not very literate.

The code they make is awful, like critical mistakes everywhere. Exactly what you'd expect from a sort of copy-pasting code from GitHub and stackoverflow until it works approach. Yeah we joke about how programmers actually just Google things but no, if you're doing your job right serious effort goes into planning approaches and making sure you're across relevant specs and styles for building maintainable code. Like I made a dohicky for screen rotating using one of these llms and if I didn't know about how linux polls sensors it would have kept the sensor constantly reading which would have mangled the battery life.

Summaries are a crapshoot, more like what students do to avoid plagarism pings. Clumsy rewordings, random waffle, missing the key points. More rephrasing than summary and then dropping random sections to hit the word limit.

you might say skill issue, sure whatever I'm sure you can become a better operator but no amount of "prompt engineering" will solve the fundamental reliability problem. If you have to be capable of and willing to duplicate the work to verify everything what use is this? We're not solving cryptography problems where testing is low effort. If I want to check a bunch of factual claims I need to do an entire lit review to ensure nothing important was missed...

I don't know who this person is but aside from the eusocial animals humans are probably the next most social creatures. Talking about fending for yourself is batshit insane, how would you even do that? Everything we have, know, or do involves other human beings.

I would agree, which is why I tend to come down against private property/privatisation of land. It serves everyone to have agriculture, but only if that agriculture is done in a way which serves everyone. Of course a community controlling its land and allocating it to people who want to use it to benefit the community is no guarantee they use it responsibly, as we can see with this one.

Managing things like environmental impact requires a very large scale view and coordination, a river might be able to tolerate run off from the first farm, but by the 50th downstream it might be cooked. It's difficult to expect the person at the first farm to really understand their impact and responsibility. Significant attitude changes are needed, almost everyone in Australia behaves in ways the earth cannot sustain and which violently exploit other animals including other humans (e.g. our diets, our trinkets). We really need to reframe what being a human in the world means and what responsibilities it entails, and set up institutions that make it easier instead of harder.

One of the problems of utopian fiction is that you see whatever you want in it. I read the culture and see cool gender liberated communism, someone else reads it and sees machine gods doing whatever they want.

We both go "It would be cool if life was more like the culture" and so I volunteer at a food bank and the other person works for openai.

They raised this in nsw a few years back. Shame it didn't take, the data are in it just makes sense. It's such a minor part of anyone's commute and it would have benefits in safety for humans, non humans, and noise level reductions.

See? outing your barely repressed antisocial violent urges.

Call me Gaza because I'd like some hamas in my tunnels.

The names are hamas.