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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@admin

Some, maybe many, hope for the decentralised model of the fediverse to “take back the internet”. Each time a commercial platform “enshitifies“, there are then calls for the fediverse to replace it with a federated alternative, in part to take advantage of the moment of user agitation.

But, IMO, resources and financial support are a touchy topic in the fediverse. If such has lead to a mismatch between ambition and opportunity, and, capability, that may be worth addressing.

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@weirdwriter @ajsadauskas @lemmyreader

Yes, forum platforms too (incl #nodebb of course).

I do get the (very vague) impression discourse is focusing on integrating well with masto to a good extent and so might not integrate too well with the other Reddit/forum platforms. If true, that might be a good enough reason to start with another base. OTOH, it’s a familiar platform to many devs so adapting it for stackoverflow like use could go well right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@ajsadauskas @lemmyreader

Yep! It seems a good Threadiverse ecosystem could be on its way with lemmy etc, nodebb and discourse. Hooking a stack overflow alternative into that could make a lot of sense of kick starting it.

Though at some point UI differences could prove problematic(?)

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@p03locke

Yep, yep and ... yep!

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@Trainguyrom

Ha
AFAIU, two platforms other than mastodon (lemmy and discourse) have issues federating because at least one of them is trying federate well with mastodon (for obvious reasons). The mastodon quirk causing issues is, AFAIU, the way it kinda mangles articles and pages (long form formats in ActivityPub), which are appropriate for forums and link-aggregators like lemmy and discourse. So someone hints been done to work well with mastodon’s mangling, which hurts lemmy-discourse interop

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@kiranc @ajsadauskas @afl

Didn't Malthouse openly attack the carlton management after he left by accusing them of not being willing to rebuild their list as much as they needed and being way too arrogant because they're carlton with 16 premierships?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

@Loukas @fediverse

Agreed (and said the same myself)!

As I've said it ... alternative social has run its course in this post-musk-twitter moment. Everyone's settled down where they ended up.

And yea, either more major disruption or some new killer features (rather than clones of big social) will be needed to shake things up. Neither seem particularly likely in the short term ... your EU-meta smackdown is probably the best bet??

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@Loukas @fediverse

Comparatively, it's definitely a lot more into shitposting vibes, for sure.

I think their biggest problem right now is they don't have good community self-organising features (nor masto, but the boost culture corrects for that IMO), so those who want more serious sub-cultures aren't getting much footing (and may never).

Feeds are interesting but not very fruitful IMO and hashtags are new, so it's a bit flat community-wise there, and many users are "wait & see" I suspect.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

@anderseknert @fediverse

Fair (kinda the simple explanation why I'm anti-threads-federation).

While I'm no BlueSky-stan, the idea/promise of the system is a hybrid, which I think is generally worthwhile (especially while things like twitter and threads *dominate*) but also interesting.

How hybridised it becomes (and can become) is the question though with *big* outstanding questions.

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@box464 @db0 @fediverse

I’d forgotten about them (firefish/Misskey plugins) actually (we probably saw each other over on firefish “back in the day”).

 

Mildly notable social media moment for me watching a Dr Becky video on YT.

In listing her "socials" she's got #TikTok , #Instagram and #Threads (and of course #youtube ).

link below

Is this the new central axis of social media?

Which is funny cuz I've never really been to *any* of those. No accounts and only visited IG a few times because something else linked there for some information.

Also, I didn't really notice Threads was succeeding.

https://youtu.be/3NeKR7bqolY?si=SJWzXyhk_S5jNdml&t=53

@fediverse

 

Is decentralised federated social media over engineered?

Can't get this brain fart out of my head.

What would the simplest, FOSS, alternative look like and would it be worth it?

Quick thoughts:

* FOSS platforms intended to be big single servers, but dedicated to ...
* Shared/Single Sign On
* Easy cross posting
* Enabling and building universal Multi-platform clients.
* Unlike email, supporting small servers

No duplication/federation/protocol required, just software.

#fediverse
@fediverse

 

What the new tech creator-content platforms and economy miss

Adam Neely on "quitting #youtube " puts two ideas together (that I hadn't) and implicitly asks "what if the new platform/economy fails you"

Longevity and freedom from traditional gatekeepers. The content-creator economy fails on these promises.

Burn out is baked in and ignoring the traditional gate-keepers is at your own very serious risk.

The world is the same, tech is just milking us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RceZ8VS8PbQ

@workreform

 

Death of the Middle Class Musician

Interesting reflection by two older musicians (Beato and Tim Pierce) about how the music industry used to have a "middle class" that's been pushed out now by an industry that focuses more and more on profits.

They don't really go into the details of how the changes happened, with big-corp #capitalism being the elephant in the room ... but their observations, which include tech, paint a pretty clear picture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLGkU_r-g2g

@workreform

 

Test again

@test

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Test

@test

 

Dealing with a government welfare system for the first time in a while.

Last time there were still people you’d talk to who’d smooth over the process.

Now it’s all online and automated.

And holy fucking hellscape Batman.

They’ve just shipped the whole bureaucracy along with their own software bugs.

And as the welfare seeker you have to navigate all of the details and jargon (and bugs/broken links) without any assurance that anything is ok, hoping the money comes.

#welfare

@australia

 

Hello kbin (and lemmy?), from mastodon?

#mytesthashtag

@[email protected]
@[email protected]

 

#Lemmy gets a (new) search engine

It already had search (with some rough edges), but people are already making their own to fill specific needs ... chiefly it seems to replace the Google site: reddit.com search facility.

See ...

https://lemmy.world/post/963301

https://www.search-lemmy.com/

Interesting to see a platform culture completely embrace being open and public.

@fediversenews

 

So most of the new #mastodon growth was taken up by mastodon.social ... right?

See
https://fedidb.org/software/mastodon ... which doesn't provide recent numbers by time, but does if you go into individual instances, such as mastodon.world, where you can see user growth mainly occurred on mastodon.social.

I imagine some users have also returned, bumping MAU but perhaps a little more distributed.

Along with lemmy.world, it looks like "centralisation" is relatively natural.

@fediverse @fediversenews

 

Directing someone new to #lemmy?

A "New Users" community has been started ... could be helpful as a first port of call: https://lemmy.world/c/newusers

@fediversenews

 

#Lemmy settles on its big central instance: lemmy.world (#lemmyworld) run by @ruud

Its numbers are now big enough to be counted amongst the top 5-10 masto instances! (https://fedidb.org/network/instance/lemmy.world) as #threadiverse become the “second platform” by size.

Apart from running it well and keeping up to date (recent update seems to have gone well, with a nice example of instances and admins helping each other!?), some redditers seek the big instances?? Curious how communities will adapt.

@fediversenews

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