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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Well that's an interesting development, which people seem to have begun experimenting with in the past few weeks. Of course for the time being I suppose it's made somewhat easier for the relays by 99% of the users being hosted on the small collection of official bsky.network PDS servers.

Some more discussion of it in which there may be hints as to how atproto people might slowly progress towards reinventing some of the things we take for granted on the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Depends how tall they are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If they don't crawl the entire network then most of the network cannot contact them at all? Which makes it ... not really a network. That's where federation would come in.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They've been warning us about the dangers of a Cyber Pearl Harbor since 1991 but I'm not too worried: Computer systems have become much more flaky and unreliable than they were then, so we're much better prepared for none of them working.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Really? I thought there were only two. How are the small ones able to afford the bandwidth to monitor everything from every PDS?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Right... it did take me a minute to remember how the relays work. Well, when there are a few hundred of them we'll see how it goes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Hmm, let's see if I remember the terminology correctly:

Client apps have nothing to do with it, obviously.

Alternate appviews have nothing to do with it, except in that they'd presumably need to work with whatever form of atproto federation exists, if any did.

Alternate relays aren't federated unless there's some protocol for routing messages between them — such as ActivityPub.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (17 children)

That's the benefit of Bluesky being totally centralized, not built with any capability for federation: When they decide to add some, they can hardly fail to see that it's best to go with ActivityPub.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

The time when it would've seemed to everyone an unacceptable intrusion to make routine demands that travellers show their ID anywhere other than at international borders is still within living memory.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

It never seemed like a lot but now that I pause to mentally add it all up it's probably at least $35.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think so. But for anyone who didn't get the reference (idk if they still teach that in grade 10 history class) the relevant excerpt from the original speech can be found here. Imagine a world where politicians talk like that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (5 children)

A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is the new Canadian experience. Its influence is felt in every city, every board room, every restaurant on Sparks Street. We must not fail to comprehend its glorious patriotic implications. We must never let the weight of our liberties and democratic processes endanger this huge industrial and military machinery of defence. It will shape the very structure of our society. In the councils of government we must strengthen the power and influence, overt and covert, of the military-industrial complex. So let's throw some money at it as quickly as possible.

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