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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I agree that giving alienable voting shares to workers isn't anti-capitalist. It becomes anti-capitalist when the voting rights over management and corporate governance are inalienable meaning they are legally recognized as non-transferable even with consent.

Here is a talk by people involved with Bernie Sanders politically about how all companies should be democratically controlled by the workers: https://youtu.be/E8mq9va5/_ZE

Sanders supports worker co-op conversions

@noncredibledefense

 

Scaling up democratic ownership: Adapting the employee ownership model to build truly democratic businesses

https://www.resilience.org/stories/2024-11-05/scaling-up-democratic-ownership-adapting-the-employee-ownership-model-to-build-truly-democratic-businesses/

@socialism

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Instead, we should implement new mechanisms for funding public goods like news such as quadratic finance. Quadratic finance is a non-market mechanism that enables a decentralized ecosystem of self-organizing public goods producers such as newsrooms. It overcomes the collective action problem of donation-based models by considering the number of people contributing as well as the amount of money contributed. Newsrooms with a large base of popular support receive greater funding

@canada

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I agree he is not a socialist in the 20th century sense, but he clearly says that workers should have ownership stake in companies, which is not a capitalist sentiment. He advocates for employee ownership of companies. I also am aware of who his economic advisors on these issues are and they are very much anti-capitalist

@noncredibledefense

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Bernie Sanders is a proper anti-capitalist not just social democratic capitalist. See: https://berniesanders.com/issues/corporate-accountability-and-democracy/

@noncredibledefense

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Software companies usually form as worker coops directly rather than using an ESOP mechanim

Here is a list worker coops: https://www.usworker.coop/directory/

There are some software companies in there under technology

Worker coops can delegate decision-making to managers and executives. This can ensure speedy decision-making. Having workers control the firm doesn't mean that every decision must be made by referendum. There can be delegation and more representative democracy

@politicalmemes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Less plants are killed from eating plants exclusively then from eating animals as well because you have to grow plants to feed livestock

https://www.britannica.com/science/trophic-pyramid

@science

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The link argues that uber drivers are employees.

The no employee factory as described sounds fine. Ellerman's philosophy doesn't just imply a worker coop mandate. Since natural resources aren't the fruits of anyone's labor and the equal claim to them of future generations, we should apply common ownership arrangements to land and natural resources and artificial monopolies.

Neo-abolition doesn't solve every problem.

Social ownership of capital is orthogonal policy issue

@latestagecapitalism

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

Liberalism refers to both a coherent political philosophy and a historical political tendency. The former liberalism is anti-capitalist. Yes many historical liberals were pro-capitalism, but this position makes their liberalism incoherent.

Private property rests on the principle that workers have an inalienable right to appropriate the positive and negative fruits of their labor. Capitalism violates this norm. Locke was wrong

A market economy of worker coops isn't socialism

@politicalmemes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

There are anti-capitalist liberals though

@politicalmemes

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

At its core, liberalism is fairly anti-capitalist. There are many arguments against capitalism from liberal principles such as the principle that legal and de facto responsibility should match. The workers in the firm are jointly de facto responsible for using up inputs to produce outputs, but receive 0% claim on the positive and negative production while the employer solely appropriates 100% of the positive and negative result of production

@politicalmemes

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago
 

How Quadratic Funding Could Finance Your Dreams | Kevin Owocki | TED

https://youtu.be/1GRt0j698T4

Quadratic funding is an economic mechanism that can help solve

  1. Underfunded public goods
    - FOSS
    - News media and journalism
    - Art
  2. Lobbying dominates electoral politics with various concentrations of wealth influencing elections and public policy in their interest
  3. Markets ignore how broad the base of support is for a particular activity leading to inegalitarian results

@neoliberal

 

A simple argument shows that capitalism is theft and workers have an inalienable right to workplace democracy - 35 minute video

"David Ellerman: Neo-Abolitionism: Towards Abolishing the Institution of Renting Persons"

https://youtu.be/c2UCqzH5wAQ

The talk argues that employment contract is invalid due to inalienable rights. Inalienable means can’t be given up even with consent. Workers’ inalienable rights are rooted in their joint de facto responsibility for all production in the firm

@solarpunk

 

What economists don't know - Why industrial policy will disappoint

https://scottsumner.substack.com/p/what-economists-dont-know

@neoliberal

 

TED talk on quadratic funding, a non-market mechanism that a postcapitalist society could use to support a decentralized ecosystem of public goods available to each according to need

"How Quadratic Funding Could Finance Your Dreams | Kevin Owocki | TED"

https://youtu.be/1GRt0j698T4

This mechanism could be used to solve funding issues in public goods such as journalism and FOSS.

Please ignore the reference to crypto. This could be incorporated into today's voting process

@socialism

 

A distraction from the election: The case for employee-owned companies

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/column-the-case-for-employee-owned-companies

"Ellerman has for years made an argument as startling as it is hard to refute: “the labor theory of property.” It’s that employees should own the firms they work for because of very simple logic: If they’re responsible for the consequences of their actions while on the job — committing a crime, say — how can it be that they’re not responsible for the positive things they do?"

@politics

 

If God must be omniscient, God doesn't exist

@atheistmemes

 

James Robinson, Nobel laureate in Economics: ‘You cannot achieve an inclusive economy with an authoritarian regime’

https://english.elpais.com/economy-and-business/2024-10-22/james-robinson-nobel-laureate-in-economics-you-cannot-achieve-an-inclusive-economy-with-an-authoritarian-regime.html

The economist and political scientist from the University of Chicago rejects the idea that repressive power structures will surpass the success of democratic systems, predicting that the Chinese model will eventually have to change

@politics

 

Math Is Still Catching Up to the Mysterious Genius of Srinivasa Ramanujan

https://www.quantamagazine.org/srinivasa-ramanujan-was-a-genius-math-is-still-catching-up-20241021/

Born poor in colonial India and dead at 32, Ramanujan had fantastical, out-of-nowhere visions that continue to shape the field today

@science

 

Can a sentence be both true and false in the same sense? - Dialetheism

It might seem nonsensical until one sees the liar's paradox:

This sentence is false.

Using classical logic, this sentence seems to be both true and false. Due to the explosion rule, that implies every sentence. This is absurd, but philosophers don't agree on what has gone wrong here.

Dialetheism is the solution that accepts that it is both true and false and modifies logic to exclude the principle of explosion

@general

 

Why capitalism is theft even if it is voluntary and consensual, and a case for universal worker democracy

“Neo-Abolitionism: Towards Abolishing the Institution of Renting Persons”

https://youtu.be/c2UCqzH5wAQ

The talk argues that capitalism is invalid on the basis of the theory of inalienable rights. Inalienable means can't be given up or transferred even with consent. Capitalist apologists often appeal to contractual consent to defend the system, so this changes the debate

@latestagecapitalism

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