jeffhykin

It's not fleeing as much as it is being so bored that that they never really find the motivation to come back.

the fact that you even want to make the article is already its justification :)

Haha that's a good point thanks. I'm glad this conversation ended on a good note.

reminds me of "radical centrism"

Interesting! I'll have to look into that.

Under a centralized system, bans are terrible. But federation is awesome because it's perfectly okay for an instance to be ban-happy. Just join another instance. (I'm on lemm.ee because I want to see everything)

Not only is it fine, but I think we actually need a variety of instances; no-bans, some-bans, lots-of-bans, and excessive-bans. People should have the choice.

Yeah I could've been more clear. I mean the All feed not Local. I went and updated my comment. And to be fully clear, I've got no complaints about lemm.ee. It's exactly what I want, e.g. show me everything and I'll decide what to block. That said, I know I'm not the norm.

Saying you blocked a fair amount is exactly what I'm talking about, so have I. A little bit of effort can really make the feed more palletable. We need to have a place where that is done by default. Maybe even an open source AI or even just an algorithm that tailors it to the user. I'm already glad Lemmy.world is much more moderate than lemm.ee, and we just need a place that goes all the way; NSFW blocked by default, several communities blocked-by-default (not defederated), and somehow prevents All from being flooded by niche memes. I love Linux and the memes (even if they get a bit repetitive) but we shouldn't have 3 of the top 10 posts be linux memes.

I tried to get my lab mate, a PhD in computer science and Linux Mint user, to get a Lemmy. He took one look at the all page, laughed, pointed out the circle jerk stuff and asked how some junk posts even made it to the all page and then said "yeah, no thanks" and has never touched Lemmy since. He was already 4 times more likely than the average person, but even he was instantly turned off.

Yeah I completely disagree. Imagine if a city/local gov wanted to use Lemmy in order to be self hosted (similar to EU govs switching to Mastodon) but the public just wonders why their local gov put their stuff on a weird circle jerk website that's flooded with niche memes. "Why didn't they use the normal thing (i.e. reddit)?"

We should be welcoming enough that, when someone wants to make a new subreddit, they make Lemmy community instead. And I don't think thats the case right now.

Yeah the "All" in particular is pretty bad for the average person. They're not going to enjoy a Star Trek meme, followed by a Arch meme, a Self-hosted post, a grad-student Science meme, followed by a privacy post.

I'm also convinced Lemmy's "hot" algorithm is broken; I can easily find posts with ONE UPVOTE on the all feed. Hot is supposed to be a balance between acceleration and total vote count, but it seems like it just only acceleration. Go look at the front page of reddit. The difference is night and day.

We need a normie.world that has an "all" feed that doesn't contain 70% niche communities. We have c/humor, c/news, etc but they're completely diluted by overpowered niche posts.

Convincing people to not give is actually really hard, I've tried doing this for Christmas for the last 3 years.

I quickly learned that entirely robbing someone of the joy of giving/helping in any way is actually pretty horrible. Giving really makes people feel like their life is well-lived.

BUT, you can change what they give and be really effective.

• Ask for advice. People love giving advice
• Ask for a list of newborn items they would recommend
• Then create some excuse (shipping, saving for big items, avoiding duplicate items, whatever) to recommend, if they must, send money instead of presents.

Be warned, you're probably still going to get a lot of amazon stuff. It's the lowest effort way to give, and that's really hard to beat.

Is there any info on why any of this happened?

Yes, a very vague official statement by the board and that's pretty much it.

is this the board actually trying to do good and Altman ...

The board's official statement made it seem that way. And this article kinda supports it (making it look like MS wants Altman at OpenAI so they have better leverage). But also the chairman of the board stepped down, which is unusual to say the least.

Not only is there more story, but also the story could be completely backwards because we have so little info.

Does it get applied at the end, or is the base price already 25% off? (I'm looking at the Sofle Choc)

Or maybe by "all" you mean "some" are discounted?

millions = lifetime human income

billions = massive company (top 5,000)

trillions = large government (top 20)

• Read "gov spends millions" as "they employed 3 to 30 people"
• Read "company is fined 1 million" as "the had to hire 2 lawyers instead of 1"
• Read "company is fined 100 million" as "paying ~100 employees for ~10 years"

For now 😎