- Guys, why did this get so many downvotes? (was it edited to be more mild? it seems genuinely curious to me, and the responses to it are good)
- What is this comment referencing? I don't see "a second part". Was the post edited?
jeffhykin
joined 2 years ago
π if you're taking recommendations "Welcome to the πitterβ’" is something I'd love to see next.
If we serve licensed content over ssh or HTTPS it's still licensed. Protocols don't change the legal requirements of the data. Warner Bros will still sue if one of their movies is hosted on a server using the activity pub protocol.
My e-bike (Onyx RCR, basically a motorcycle) hasn't needed anything of the sort. So it might be either a specific manufacturer thing and/or a cargo bike thing. I can imagine them using regular bike parts even though it's taking way more weight/stress.
For pedal bikes, they can be that reliable if you want to pay for it:
- hub gearbox (a rohloff gets 100,000km minimum)
- decent belt drive (30,000km)
- solid tires get 5,000km. Not as good as car tires but there's a reason; any additional durability will add noticeable drag/weight. Super thick e-bike tires could probably get 70,000km like a car
really? For me it's more of a not having time. Doesn't cost much to go caroling, watch Charlie Brown, cut paper snowflakes, make handmade gifts, etc
What? I'm saying every federated copy must legally must have the usage restrictions. Just cause it's copied doesn't mean it can go into a for-profit LLM.
it can apply across all of them, for example that's how copy-left works
Sure, but it's still true that there are legal protections we can add that make it not fair game for Lemmy. At best it would be unfair-game (illegal scraping of Lemmy)
It's not fair game for for-profit bussinesses training LLM's. That's part of why Reddit made the move; so that companies would need to pay Reddit for access to the data for legally training models
Yeah, sorry if I'm not great at communicating. That's exactly what I'm trying to point out when I said:
Even if we don't federate with them, Meta can still harvest the data so we should add these protections regardless.
As opposed to a facebook-controlled server being the top search result for Lemmy.
I see why that's confusing so I edited my comment just now
I think we can give facebook/threads the bad end of the bargin IF we have a data protections.
You know how powerful copy-left was for open source? I think we can do the same for Lemmy servers. We can have users agree (formally) that the data on a particular server cannot be used for training llvm's advertisements, marketing profiles, etc, and make it legally binding.
Even if we don't federate with them, Meta can still harvest the data so we should add these protections regardless. Maybe there is already something like this and I'm just unaware of it.
If we do add these protections and we ensure that the largest instance (e.g. Lemmy.world) is community controlled, I think it could work well for bringing more content to Lemmy.