hawkwind

joined 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Your right. You just asked what a "fake account" was though. I think it's generally accepted that if you create "alt" accounts for the sole purpose of vote manipulation, you're being a dick.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I've been thinking about this most of the day. This represents, like you said, people with nothing better to do, grouped by how much the user dislikes a community.

You could take action targeting these users. BUT, what about sneakier brigading. For sure there will be users with even MORE nothing better to do.

For example, if they have multiple accounts spread across multiple servers and automate downvoting?

Maybe, a super simple solution is to rate limit downvotes? I mean it's not elegant, but if it were slow enough, it prevents burying things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

That made my day and also inspired me to watch some vintage Simp-i-sone's. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 years ago (7 children)
  • Should we/let's defederate with X?
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

People can defederate from an instance for any reason they want, but if I get what you're trying to say: you think people should defederate from any instance that has a user that subscribes to all of their communities.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I just mean that the karma system ala Reddit did more than just keep track of it and display it afaik. The data is in the db but a fully done karma system it is not. I could be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

And it’s only a matter of time until that detection can be evaded. The knife cuts both ways. Automation and the availability of internet resources makes this back and forth inevitable and unending. The devs, instance admins and users that coalesce to make the “Lemmy” have to be dedicated to that. Everyone else will just kind of fade away as edge cases or slow death.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The data to build it is there. Ftfy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Agree. Farming karma is nothing compared to making a single individual polar-opinion APPEAR as though it is other’s (or most’s) polar-opinion. We know that other’s opinions are not our own, but they do influence our opinions. It’s pretty important that either 1) like numbers mean nothing, in which case hot/active/etc. are meaningless or 2) we work together to ensure trust in like numbers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

In this context it would be an account with the sole purpose of boosting the visible popularity of a post or comment.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

IMO, likes need to be handled with supreme prejudice by the Lemmy software. A lot of thought needs to go into this. There are so many cases where the software could reject a likely fake like that would have near zero chance of rejecting valid likes. Putting this policing on instance admins is a recipe for failure.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago

Come on, they’re just people too with common people problems. Cut them some slack.

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