gravityowl

What do hamas think of women?

What does Israel think of all the women they raped and killed then? And what does it think of children too, since they killed more children then any other country in 2024?

Gtfo with your Zionist talking points

I remember reading somewhere that one of the possible reasons for that feeling might be because of the change in times.

As in, when we go to work, we usually have to wake up early and then have our routine during the rest of the day. But on holidays/during the weekend, we tend not to follow any schedules. And then after getting used to waking up whenever we want (or later than usual), we get cranky because our body is (forced to get) used to our working schedule.

So a solution might be go to bed at times that aren't too different from your usual times during your working days.

Basically, some consistency with your sleep might help.

And please don't tell me "just change jobs".

Fair. Can I then suggest a social and political revolution to change the current system in which we have to waste our lives working for rich fucks who don't care about us?

I might sound like an asshole and I apologize in advance if I do because it's not about you specifically in this case but, while I'm glad that you had people in your life who were willing to consistently talk to you and help you rethink some things, the problem to me is exactly that like you said, it does not happen overnight. At all. It actually takes a long time and a lot of trust between people to achieve what was achieved with you in this particular case. And while I am certainly glad to have another ally, time is a luxury in some cases.

Using the case of Palestine, a Palestinian village getting bombed because so many liberals simply don't value their lives enough and don't pressure their officials to do something about it, doesn't have the luxury of time.

As another example, the collapse of our ecosystem is happening every single day. And while we let companies continue business as usual, those liberals think that it's a topic that can always be postponed. But it can't. And now we're past the point of no return and yet we waste time in pointless conversations trying to explain to people that what is happening, is happening.

If some people on the left are willing to and have the time to take liberals by the hand and explain to them things they could look up for themselves if only they weren't so dismissive and disinterested in the suffering of others, great. They surely have my thank. But I don't think as a general strategy makes sense to wait for such liberal people to suddenly decide that importent issues are finally important enough to them to be acted upon.

Those issues have always been important and worthwhile. Their previous lack of interest about such topics is their own failure.

You're talking as if for over a year (cough decades cough) Palestinian activists hadn't tried talking to the liberals about their party's unshakable support for the ongoing genocide.

What's left to say to people who are "going to pick the lesser of 2 evils" even when you showed them that their pick is still funding the ethnic cleansing of all Palestinian people?

We should talk to general leftist people. Not the liberals. They still value money and profit over people

Jeez, I wonder what could be done in this very specific instance where a billionaire, who has very much openly aligned himself with fascism, has also tried to influence foreign elections and subvert entire countries' democratic processes by leveraging his immense capital to buy and poison a massive "public" platform. We should definitely leave things as they are and let him use his platform however he wants to spread more lies. Surely just talking more about what could potentially be done about it will help! Maybe we could even write him a letter to ask for his input? No reason to, you know, take actual measures to tackle all (or even some) of this and face the serious and life-threatening challenges we face as a specie. Let's keep chatting more and more about nothing while, as always, the fascists keep dismantling the few safeguards we have and our planet keeps burning because we don't want to shake the boat too much.

Obvious sarcasm aside, what would you do? Talking is great when you have the time to do so, and when, more importantly, you have people genuinely willing to have a conversation and find a middle ground. They told us multiple times they are not willing

I truly cannot understand if you're being a troll or not

Bro...

The right wing/fascists are gaining seats and control everywhere while telling us to our faces what they want to do and all these centrist moderate fuckers can do is "plan to energetically advance a probe into a potential moderation".

I hate this timeline as much as I hate them

the most effective being the "Scandinavian model" countries which effectively blended large amounts of socialism into a capitalist system

That is absolutely NOT socialism. Like, at all. And if you legitimately think that, I'm genuinely sorry to say that you are quite unclear about what socialism is.

The Nordic countries are absolutely not socialist in any shape or form. They are very much capitalist societies with marginally better welfare systems. Which is not saying a lot considering the average country that leaves every individual to fend off for themselves.

They all have staggering amounts of regulation.

I was being overly simplistic in my original comment I admit. They do have regulations, but know this: "regulations" in a capitalist system are always limited in their scope and are primarily designed to sustain the capitalist system to allow it to perpetrate its profit-first essence. By nature, they are never created with the intent to actually challenge or limit their fundamental exploitative dynamics (think of the 2008 crisis. The banks were bailed out and measures were put in place to stabilize the market. And yet no serious measures were put in place to fundamentally change the market itself or to prevent future exploitations).

I sincerely hope you might use this conversation as an opportunity to read and learn more about Socialist/Marxist theory. I am convinced far more people would agree with it more than they think (especially in these fucked up times) if they'd read more about it

Oh so now we're moving the goalpost?

We started with "socialist theory is the problem!" but when pressured, suddenly it's "well the theory is not really the problem".

Go figures

I have definitely read enough to not write something as incoherent as

No....not everyone hates capitalism. Everyone hates uncontrolled capitalism

and just proving the OP's post right.

I think you need to read more of the theory.

I truly could not care less about the opinion of someone like you who is defending capitalism with such passion in these comments

You can tell by some of these comments