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Specifically I was talking about how helpful he was to other admins, he made out lives a lot easier. Can't comment on dubvee moderation

You're a fucking legend, thank you so much :D

FYI I made a revision that solves this issue, check pinned comment. Not to sway your opinion, feel free to vote however you want :)

So, it appears unruffled is MIA and I can't reach him about this right now, so...

Remember: this is temporary, even if this vote passes it'll only last for two weeks ; and we might defederate if they are problematic. As of now we have no idea how they behave with us since we've been defederated for a very long time, which is the purpose of the trial; can we get along or not?

I've revised this vote to make it more fair to the objectors (without permission :3). The main problem seems to be that lots of you don't want to see grad content, and that's fair; personally, I think their instance can produce shit takes a lot. So in this revision (and FAQ) I'll try to address everything.

Note: if it ever gets bad or we have too much fights between us and them, don't worry; we can always block them again.

The original plan was: run a trial vote, federate for a month, and then immediately run another vote to cement/reject this.

Thanks to the comments here, here's my personal changes:

• Shorten the trial to two weeks instead, thanks to the two users that suggested this
• After the trial, defederate immediately instead of running the next vote asap. Then once Lemmy properly fixes instance blocking (I.E. completely block an instance, as if it was actually defederated), we can run the vote, but more fairly; users who've this will get it, and users who reject this can easily block it, as if it never happened. Win win?

Forgive me if I'm missing stuff, I'm far away from home and busy, and can't do too much admin duty, and I'm only really commenting this since unruffled is offline xd.

FAQ:

Why, and why now?

A lot of users, including one just recently who quit their instance, are sick of liberals. This is mainly meant to be a counterweight to that. Although seeing some users here live some of their content, I guess that's a plus, too.

As for why now? Well this really started over two casual conversations about grad, tankies, and liberals.It's odd I have to admit, but oh well ¯_(ツ)_/¯

What if I change my mind and want to defederate again?

Besides the fact that instance blocking will be fixed during that time, anybody can always start up a vote for defederation! This isn't a permanent, set in stone thing

Didn't we have good reason to defederate before? Why refederate?

Well, kinda? Not really. I asked db0 about this and here is his response:

The reasons are simple, I didn't know much about hexbear at the start and took them at their words that they're not just tankies, LG was stalwartly running apologia red fash regimes like North Korea and that was a bit too much to stomach for me. By how I learned that LG is basically the same as hexbear ideologically just without the left unity and dirtbag left approach.

And afaik grad has been defederated from the very beginning anyway, no voting took place.

I hope I covered everything. Personally? I don't really care about this too much, whether it passes or not I probably wouldn't mind. Most of us admins are neutral/skeptical, since we've never federated with them we've never interacted with them at all.

Anyways, this is the community's choice. If you guys don't like it we won't force you, and if you like it we'll respect your wishes.

If you have any other suggestions of compromise, feel free so reply here. Cheers

Its a shame, it was one of the best clients. And admiral Patrick was very helpful to all admins, too ☹️

I do this all the time, I gave up on reading the instance itself and just memorizing the users' themselves, the difference is too subtle for me 🥲

Glory to comrade JDPON Don! 🫡 /s

You said WHAT about my son??

Come on, let's get out of here 911.

Itsh (or ish) tee im ill, or e[t]sh tee em ell in arabic.

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Well it's a step up over before at least, thanks.

I haven't used reddit much in years, but i remember racism there being a huge problem. I checked again and it seems a lot of the far right shitheads splintered to another sub, which unironically believes in the great replacement. (/r/europe_sub if you want to see how bad it is) so I guess that curbed down the number of Nazis there.

I don't know how r/europe is nowadays but i probably should've checked, sorry :p

No offense but are r/europe users really the type of people we'd want to attract here? They have a huge far-right problem.