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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Ok but mosquitoes historically are the #1 killers of humans, by an order of magnitude

Homo sapien: am I a joke to you?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

You're comparing animals with fat throughout the muscle to birds that don't.

No, I'm comparing the same species of animal. We've gone from 100+ day old birds weighing 2.5 lbs to 47 day old birds weighing 6.5 lbs in the last century. That seems comparable to the difference between old roosters for coq au vin or old dairy cattle for vaca vieja and their respective supermarket counterparts.

Also, the connective tissue only starts to break down once getting to about 192f and needs to hang out for a good while between there and 210 to slowly break down.

No, collagen starts to break down slowly as low as 130°F, but the breakdown speeds up as the temperature rises. There are ways to play around with this with different techniques, where doneness is more than just getting the meat to temperature. It's why poaching chicken used to be more common than it is today. It's why chicken wings taste best when double fried. It's why confit works so well for duck legs.

Also, steak was best 200 years ago as it is now.

Ok, again, if you've ever had to work through cooking something like vaca vieja, you'll notice that it doesn't cook the same way as a steak that's been dry aged, or a regular steak at Costco, or a lean grass-fed steak. If your steak technique is the exact same for all of them, you're probably missing out.

And I'm guessing the NY Times wasn't exactly building this conclusion based on only steak recipes. 150 years is gonna have a lot of non-steak recipes in the mix.

Methods changed because we got better at cooking.

That's part of it. But also, trends come and go. I'd rather have a 1950s cheeseburger than a 1990s cheeseburger, and much of the post 2010 scene has been re-implementing some old techniques that fell out of favor (smashing patties, simpler bread for buns, fewer toppings) and a backlash at some of those things that got out of control. Cocktails went through something similar too, with old classics coming back (either as is or with a new variation).

I'm sure any comprehensive catalog of recipes over decades is going to include some fads that fizzled out, like low fat stuff in the 90's, etc. It's not some kind of inexorable march of progress.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm betting chicken always could have cooked faster.

Chicken can be cooked to temperature quickly, but that alone likely wasn't enough. We know this for plenty of cuts of pork and beef that the connective tissue needs time to break down, not just a pure cook to temperature (see braising, smoking, and sous vide techniques).

Something like coq au vin, which was developed for cooking older, tougher roosters, traditionally calls for a low and slow cook to break down the tougher animal.

You can also see the difference when buying cuts like vaca vieja (old dairy cattle slaughtered for meat), which calls for different preparation based on the tougher meat.

So no, I can believe the meat itself is very different today, and the recipes adjusted to the change in ingredient characteristics. We've documented that the manner of raising animals is totally different, so why would you be skeptical that the meat is different?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would think that an ad for something would paint that thing in a favorable light, not make it look gross and weird and unappealing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Same but also because I haven't felt the desire to get taco bell without having been drinking first.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Interesting that egg sizing labels aren't that universal. In the U.S. most big stores primarily stock Large (minimum weight 56.7g) and Extra Large (63.8g), while Jumbo (70.9g) is still probably more common than Medium (49.6g).

(My methodology for getting weights was that I used the government labeling requirements for minimum weight per dozen, converted ounces to grams, divided by 12).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

We shall name it of course after our beloved queen.

Yes, of course. Sorry.

Let it pass and hail to this glorious land, Virginia!

Er...What? Who's Virginia?

The Queen of England, you dog!

Oh, right. Except...I don't know how to put this. She's not called Virginia, but Elizabeth.

I'm well aware of that, but she is, I trust you will agree, a virgin.

Er... Yeah, as far as I know. I mean, I'm sure she is.

But do we want to name a country after that fact?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I mean that's basically why a lot of us are great at small talk: we actually do care about the contents of that low stakes conversation with strangers.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No sorry this is gastro-entomology.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (6 children)

What is violet at the end of the visible spectrum, then? We call the higher wavelength stuff ultraviolet, and violet looks purple to me, so I'm having trouble reconciling this stuff with what you're saying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I'm not going to pretend like I'm good with money. I'm not. I have a decade of experience of being a young adult on a tight budget to know that's not one of my strengths. I wasn't great at stretching each dollar to its most efficient use. And I still am not.

I won't speak on whether student loans are worth it. I think, like everything, it depends. I think a bachelor's degree is definitely worth the cost (both in tuition and time), but it might still be worth doing it cheaper if there's a cheaper path available.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

So we're having a conversation about the Wal-Mart style self checkouts, which you've not only never experienced, but apparently can't even imagine.

To borrow from an earlier comment of yours, we're in an "alternate reality," so your conversation should be grounded in that understanding.

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