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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks for explaining!

About the Threads telemetry. I wonder how does the telemetry they gather from the users of their app ("The Threads app can collect data related to your health, financial information, contact information, browsing history, location and purchases, among other things.") affect users who interact from other instances (for example some mastodon instance) with thread users posts/replies.

I learned from #mastodon irc channel that in Mastodon for example, the instance owner/maintainer has the following extra information on users of their instance: "IP addresses, email, when they connect, what toots they browse and when". So this information is not available to Meta, if you are interacting with threads user for example from a mastodon instance that is federating with the threads instance. I'm not seeing how they are getting extra information on you as they can collect all the metadata and your mastodon behaviour already by just creating another anonymous mastodon instance that gets federated with other mastodon instances and then collect the data that can be gathered across the instances. Or maybe you can even scrape the data from mastodon without running an instance even? I'm just trying to learn as I go and my information may be wrong. Please anyone correct/fix if there are mistakes here and inform me more thanks :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm reading that Google chose XMPP to their Google Talk product, then later decided to drop the support of Google Talk in favor of Google Hangouts that wasn't using XMPP. This affected Google Talk users who were using 3rd party clients to use Google Talk as they were forced to start using bloated Google Hangouts. But how did all this affect people using XMPP protocol for other than Google Talk?

I'm also seeing potential for growth here for services using activitypub, mainly for the microblogging service Mastodon, as that's apparently a similar platform to Threads, or the other new player BlueSky, which also is going to use activitypub protocol.

I'm not a microblogger, but I'm seeing and clicking links to interesting tweets on chatrooms and websites I visit, and if they are going to be appearing through threads or bluesky in the future, and I am able to view them without having to access a bloated threads or bluesky app/website I see it as a good thing. If they one day defederate from mastodon instances for example and I can't view them from the outside anymore, it sounds like it's what happened with Google, then it's just back to where it was before they came along, unless the whole show managed to draw people from mastodon (mostly) to threads/bluesky which I doubt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There are two things slowing down the migration. One is the "network effect" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect (which is really strong in reddit) and other is the confusion and bugginess of Lemmy right now as lemmy is still in its infancy. Decentralization makes this a bit confusing to use and it doesn't help that some posts etc are not showing up due to bugs or lack of features so you are not sure if the problem is you or lemmy but regardless of all that, federation is better than the reddit empire so we're on the right track

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

When I view the community through the lemmy instance I'm using, I'm seeing no posts there. I guess this is a problem related to vlemmy but just putting it out here if someone else is having the same problem and is confused https://vlemmy.net/c/[email protected]

edit: now it shows the reddit threads there, so probably as I understand vlemmy hadn't seen them yet (as no one in vlemmy had been accessing the community yet) and it took it some hours(?) to sync the stuff from another instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

as of now, how much resources the server hosting an instance requires, how much perhaps if content and instances double the size? Is that a burden for other instances to have a yet another instance to sync with? if people self-hosted instances for one or a few people only would that make sense?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I'll add for what it's worth I'm having 'pending' on many communities I have tried to join some 4-7 days ago maybe, but yeah I'll wait.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

maybe if you're a federation citizen, but for a ~~redditor~~ klingon, it's about the empire!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is there something that can be done to avoid this. I think it's not fruitful to have multiple communitiies over one topic. I have noticed seeing multiple small communities with the same or almost same name when I have searched some other things

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

In community's sidebar the subscriber count varies depending from where you look at the community. For example https://vlemmy.net/c/[email protected] this shows 2 subscribers, which I guess means that they have 2 subscribers at the community from vlemmy, and then https://sopuli.xyz/c/suomi says 558 subscribers. Is this 558 the amount of subscribers from sopuli.xyz only, or does that include all subscribers total from vlemmy, sopuli.xyz and all the other lemmy instances? If not, where can one see the total subscribers of a community?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is there a way to add links to communities so that the domain part gets its data based on from where the end-user is viewing the website? For example if I view this finnish community that shows related communities on its sidebar, the links takes to their homeserver and I can't subscribe from there https://vlemmy.net/c/[email protected]

Instead the links on the sidebar should take to https://vlemmy.net/c/@ right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Why are people making multiple communities with the same topic on different servers and all of them having only few users? Wouldn't it be better that only one community is made per topic and everyone would go there? For example there are 3 star trek communities and 2 star trek the next generation communities, or there are 5 ufo/ufos communities

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