curbstickle

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[–] curbstickle 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

No, I'm pretty comfortable where I'm at.

I think intellectual property is a functional element of capitalism, and capitalism is a problem. I support people directly, and could not care less about anyone downloading content. I also support the local art scene, through events and direct purchase of works.

That doesn't mean that I think intellectual property (as a product) is sensible in any way.

That said, all my models are personally trained on my own data, and maybe a public domain based model for basic language to put context to a detected issue. That doesnt mean I'm going to put down folks who use a local model trained on some degree of copyright works, because no matter what, those users aren't the problem. Corporations are.

Because capitalism is a problem.

I think it's a more fair statement to say almost anyone hating on AI is usually referring to corporate AI in the first place.

I'd say its more accurate that the people who constantly hate on AI are ignorant of the tools and their use, and most often their position is nothing more than "capitalism is the problem" (see above) whether they realize it or not.

And some will even go on to defend capitalism, which makes it even weirder to me.

And considering some of the comments across this post, I'd say my perception is pretty accurate.

[–] curbstickle 4 points 1 month ago

Personally I'm for it, I think it has some approaches that are more interesting (topics for example).

So as long as its not a pain to run, I'm into it and would try it out for sure.

[–] curbstickle 0 points 1 month ago

I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

[–] curbstickle 3 points 1 month ago (7 children)

"Fixing capitalism" is just ending capitalism, the problems are inherent in its design.

In any case, you seem to be under the impression that all AI is just chatgpt, copilot, Gemini, grok, meta, etc. This is not the case. There are models trained entirely on peoples own work/material, models trained only on public domain materials, etc. Its just software and data, and the issue you are taking is - from your example - a capitalism problem, and has nothing to do with the software.

So what you're saying now reads no differently than "We have to fix capitalism before we can advocate for Linux!"

Would that make sense as a statement to you?

[–] curbstickle 2 points 1 month ago

At work, a CTO for a firm we were designing a solution for got upset because hardware was in customs, and tariffs needed to be paid.

He didn't understand why the manufacturer wasn't paying, and it had to be pointed out (by someone from the other company bringing this hardware) that tariffs are a tax on importing, not exporting, and for every single contract they have ever had, tariffs are paid by the client.

This was not a small company, either. We're talking about a fairly large firm in finance. And the CTO didn't understand how tariffs work.

We're fucked.

[–] curbstickle 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

I dont advocate for corporate AI.

I'd also mention most users on db0 are far more likely to be using fully open models and models they've trained themselves (which is what I do, mostly log/error eval stuff).

That said, "fixing" AI will solve nothing, because capitalism is going to find yet another way to screw them over. Banning AI tomorrow isn't going to provide job security or a stable income, it wasn't before and it isn't now.

I work with a lot of creatives, and so many are contract based and struggle between them. Several of them have been finding work cleaning up (as in, creating new) materials that were AI generated and look terrible.

So again, the issue is capitalism, and AI is just the most recent conversation piece. AI isn't the root of the problem, nor is the problem "solved" without it.

[–] curbstickle 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yup, was getting an uber (I can't drive for very long or the pain starts), he was chatty and excited about Trump.

Asked what he thought about the anti-immigrant talk (oh obviously thats the bad ones!), and the fact that there was a pandemic and prices skyrocketed (Biden's fault even though that all started before he was in office), etc. Paraphrased obviously.

I don't know what can possibly be said to these folks to have them understand, but as a result, we have... Well all this current nonsense.

[–] curbstickle 10 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Thats a capitalism problem, not an AI problem. AI is just the most recent example.

They shouldn't have to rely on maybe getting paid so they can have food, shelter, and other basic things for living.

[–] curbstickle 9 points 1 month ago

This is one of those cases where an algorithm carefully trained on only relevant data can have value.

Hopefully more people learn that this is the important part.

It becomes nonsense when you just feed it everything and the kitchen sink. A well trained model works.

[–] curbstickle 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

8 months ago:

Literally in a car with an immigrant right now who voted Trump because things were cheaper before covid.
FFS.

I'm curious what that guy thinks today. Or if he's still in the US.

[–] curbstickle 6 points 1 month ago

So brigading small communities can be easier?

[–] curbstickle 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The 1yr old and 2 yr old were left alone in a car, for ~~90~~ 150 minutes.

This was negligience long before a child died.

Edit - misread the times, its so much worse.

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