commiunism

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[–] commiunism 3 points 37 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah, apart from the voodoo magic such as finance and whatever economic models economists talk about, which when failed they use more voodoo shit to justify why.

Economy in terms of distribution and production, that's real and will exist from mercantilism to communism and maybe beyond given our globalized economy.

[–] commiunism 1 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

Economy is very much real, and it's funny to see Anarchists say shit like this, can't beat the stereotype. Production and its distribution is global, you have to know what and how much to produce either via the use of markets (capitalist) or planned economies (socialist/communist).

You could previously make most things locally so these concepts didn't exist, but that's only because people were mostly living the life of a peasant, but now you have tech, advancements in medicine, and not every state has these kinds of resources.

However, the mainstream economics and its models are bullshit, the more complex people make them the more de-attached from reality they are

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[–] commiunism 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My god, stop putting words in my mouth that I'm some kind of anti-communist as a whole due to not recognizing China as being Socialist. Sorry for viewing things through historical materialism and it not passing the sniff test I guess.

That comment was referring to the private model which, you're right, is not the exact same in execution but it's remarkably similar in principle given both systems' state dominance in key economic areas with the co-existence of private ownership.

Fascist Italy did hold a significant portion of state ownership in heavy industry/shipbuilding/banking/infrastructure by 1930, so it wasn't entirely driven by private ownership. China economy isn't necessarily public either (at least depending on who you ask) given how it's state owned with state acting as the surplus-extracting capitalist and having the final say rather than collectivized and owned by the workers.

[–] commiunism 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Relax, it's just a joke given how the image essentially is "communist is when many trains, capitalism is when one bad train". Making a reference to Mussolini, one of the most famous liberals of all time is always gonna be funny

[–] commiunism 4 points 1 month ago

pretty much how I got into my first relationship lmao

[–] commiunism 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It's not even that, given how there's a decent chunk of their economy owned by private individuals

[–] commiunism 39 points 1 month ago (17 children)

It's not a stretch, it's outright false to call it communism or socialism, systems which necessitate the abolishment of capitalist mode of production (commodity production, private ownership, markets) and money. China, meanwhile, literally has billionaires, still produces things under capitalist mode of production and the only oddity it has compared to other Capitalist countries is partially nationalized economy (which Mussolini has also done, it's not socialism by itself).

It's just a social democracy.

[–] commiunism 17 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Communism is when trains run on time

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[–] commiunism 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"Trad" likely refers to legal guardianship of the past, where women were essentially the property of men with no legal autonomy.

[–] commiunism 16 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it's a play on the fact that modern day China and its "socialist qualities" that ML's use to claim the country is socialist are remarkably similar if not identical to how fascist Italy worked.

[–] commiunism 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Critical support to Mussolini for nationalizing the economy/means of production (it's called socialism liberal you wouldn't get it)

 

Would YOU make out with trotski?? 😳

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Probably satire, still funny given how it's the mindset of most liberals even today.

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