anarchiddy

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[–] anarchiddy 2 points 2 months ago

Judaism is very different from Islam.

Good thing the ME isn't mono-religious

Palestinian culture is very different from Israeli culture

Insofar as they are both partially defined by being on either side of an apartheid state, sure. But Jews and arabs lived very peacefully in Palestine and throughout the ME long before Palestine was partitioned. The ME was full of arab-jewish communities living alongside Muslims before Israel began their immigration campaign and before pan-arab nationalism spread through the region. I highly recommend Avi Shlaim's "Three World's" book if you're curious how those cultures developed alongside each other, and how they've changed since Israel's establishment.

I believe both Israel and Palestine have a right to exist.

I believe both the people of Palestine and Israel have a right to exist, but neither have a right to exist as ethno-nationalist apartheid states.

[–] anarchiddy 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There clearly are people who claim Israel (and Jews in general) as a shared identity and cultural group have no right to exist. These people are traditionally called Nazis.

Yup, and those Nazis largely supported the Zionist mission of a Jewish state, both because they wanted the Jews to emigrate out of Europe and because they hated Arabs almost as much as they hated Jews. Nazis and Zionists share a strictly defined understanding of cultural and ethnic boundaries, and a belief that geographical boundaries are a reflection of those boundaries (or ought to). It's only really tricky if your understanding of Zionism and Israel is limited to the specific group that is doing the cleansing.

The Israelis aren’t simply a group of Ashkenazi Jews who moved to the Middle East during the Holocaust. They’re a people who have lived in the area for thousands of years and maintained a distinct culture throughout occupation by other empires.

The jewish diaspora is almost as defined by their shared cultural heritage with their middle eastern neighbors as it is by their origin. You can't draw a clean ethnic or cultural boundary around Israel that's separate from their arabic brothers and sisters. That's exactly the problem with zionism - it attempts to forcefully separate the cultural inheritance of its arabic history and expel it from both the geographical and cultural boundaries of Israel.

People who oppose Israel as a Jewish state do so because they see Zionism as a mission of ethnic and cultural purification, not because it's a symbolic representation of Jews as an entire people. That's what makes the conflation of anti-zionism and antisemitism so nefarious.

[–] anarchiddy 3 points 2 months ago (14 children)

A nation is a group of people with a shared, named identity, such as Hawaiian or Palestinian

Hmm, I dont think this is true in the most common usage, but it's also not what is meant when people challenge the notion of Israel's 'right to exist'.

Nobody contends that the "shared identity" of Israel has no right to exist, only that Israel as a capital-J Jewish State has no unique or exclusive right to self-determination in Historic Palestine. No state or nationality has a right to deny the self-determination of another group on the basis of ethnic identity.

[–] anarchiddy 0 points 2 months ago

argue amongst themselves instead of realizing the bigger picture which is to win power and do good things with it

Almost as if people have contradicting ideas about what 'good things' need doing.

But you understand “donors” are just rich fucks

Lmao, idk I don't really think there's anything "just" about being a billionare political donor

Until the NYC/NY Democrat party says “don’t vote for him” then it’s really irrelevant

Unrelated - I have a bridge to sell you

[–] anarchiddy 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ok now go look at what the donors are saying.

[–] anarchiddy 25 points 2 months ago

Mamdani has the majority opinion, that Israel has a right to exist as a state with equal rights. Zionists have a hard time accepting that as an answer but it's a morally unobjectionable one.

[–] anarchiddy 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're not mad because they lost money, they're terrified because Mamdani is a socialist.

[–] anarchiddy 5 points 2 months ago

It's indicative of a deep, irreversible rift in the party. Either democrats adapt or they split in half.

[–] anarchiddy 6 points 2 months ago

Either they listen to their voters and become a 'new' democratic party, or they'll continue bleeding numbers and die. Either way, it's still the beginning of the end.

[–] anarchiddy 3 points 2 months ago

They are going to gamble that they can stay the same because people are/will be so mad about… well everything.

They will 100% try to do this, but they'll end up losing and then blame the voters they're maligning. Mamdani is a case-in-point difference between status quo candidate turnouts and progressive candidate turnout. The 7% delta over Cuomo is the 7% they'll lose if they try it again.

[–] anarchiddy 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact - uneven eye dilation can sometimes be a symptom of stroke or aneurysm

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