Zyansheep

joined 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

radical centrist more like

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Wait, what is the difference in pronunciation for θeɪ vs ðeɪ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But from the perspective of someone at the top of the stairs, wouldn't it be the radical right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So like, every co-op, worker-owned company, and software company is socialist since their workers own the means of production?

Also, couldn't you say that if the workers control the state, (i.e. through a democracy) that they own the "means of production"? Or does socialism have a requirement for more direct ownership?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Then what is socialism? What does a socialist society look like?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Does public ownership and maintenance of infrastructure count as socialism? If so, that definitely happened.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Is every ideology also a process where people learn from their past attempts at achieving the ideology?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

is this democracy? Can you vote to stop ExxonMobile from drilling more oil wells? If you really believe that choosing between two pro-business parties is "democracy", you've been progandised

I personally probably can't stop Exxon from drilling more oil wells, but I am confident that if a significant portion U.S. population suddenly decided to not drive cars anymore and lobbied the government for more investment into clean energy and walkable cities, that Exxon might have to slow its operations significantly... this is all to say I do believe the US has a democracy, if the majority really wants something, they don't need to fear retaliation by an authoritarian government, they can call their representative, or vote for one that reflects their perspective. Sure, democracy is slow, and vulnerable to political "superstructures" (non-codified systems like parties or coalitions) which cause distortions (i.e. the 2-party system in the U.S.). But I'd rather have a system that at least allows for grassroots change than a system that is scared of its own populace.

I kinda shocked that people aren't more mad. You are aware that our planet is dying, and that we have maybe a decade before complete climate collapse happens.

People are mad, I'm mad at the way things are too! I think some people don't express it much because being mad all the time is tiring and many feel helpless to try to change things which is a miserable feeling. Even so, words and ideas are cheap, convincing others to act using those words, or acting yourself, that is what changes the world.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

And yet many humans and animals have done such a thing since the beginning.

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