Whirlybird

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Ok cool, so you definitely don't even know what "due process" he wasn't given, nor what "due process" he should be given.

Sums up the mentality of most of the people who are melting down over the deportation of a violent illegal immigrant gang member.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Still can't answer the question lol

What law and what due process?

What process was not followed? What court case should he have if brought back?

If you can't answer these it's pretty clear you're a "bad faith actor".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

So you can't answer this?

Like specifically - what do you want done with him if he is brought back into the USA?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Judge made a limited scope ruling.

The "limited scope" being that he is a MS-13 member lol. Also what legal determination do you think there is to say "this person is a gang member"?

If you can’t read the original content and come to these conclusions, then you are either an idiot or useful idiot or you are paid for this, ie a bad faith actor.

How can you read the original content and conclude that he needs more judges declaring he is an MS-13 member before he gets deported? (which he should be anyway, since he is there illegally lol)

The irony of you calling me a "useful idiot" is just amazing. You're arguing for an illegal immigrant violent gang member, who has just ignored multiple court appearances in the past, to be brought back into the USA where he has no right to be in the first place. To make it even dumber, you're demanding he be deported from his country of residence lol. Who is being played like a fiddle here again?

"But I just want him to have his due process!" I hear you scream. Where was his "due process" to enter the country? He already had his "due process" in immigration court where he was ordered to be deported and determined to be a gang member. What more "due process" do you actually want? Like specifically - what do you want done with him if he is brought back into the USA?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

When I said, “consider this my reply also,” it meant “I’m no longer interested in talking to you.”

When I said, “Not worth my effort,” it meant “I’m no longer interested in talking to you.”

That doesn't mean I'm not going to reply to you. I'm going to reply to your post, and it's up to you if you want to reply again or not. You said you wouldn't - that's fine with me...........yet here you are :)

You don't get to choose when I stop replying to you, I do. Just don't reply if you don't want to :)

I have a learning disability

Clearly. Good on you for being upfront about it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (8 children)

What exactly do you disagree with that I'm saying?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Customs and Border Patrols reason for denying them entry:

“Both claimed they were touring California but later admitted they intended to work — something strictly prohibited under US immigration laws for these visas.”

The women then say this:

But the women — who were planning to continue on to Los Angeles and then Costa Rica after Hawaii — insisted they were interrogated by CBP for hours, and that transcripts show their words were “twisted” and outright falsified.

So show us the transcripts and show us where they twisted the words. Why wasn't that the first thing published on there?

edit: Just saw another article about this where they admit that they were going to do remote work while in the USA:

https://liveandletsfly.com/german-teenagers-deported-usa/

So looks like they were correctly sent home. If you are going to work, get a work visa. If you're not, get a tourist visa. This isn't hard.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean, at least they finally admitted the withholding status was granted

I've never said that it wasn't. I've said many times that he had a withholding status, but that it doesn't matter due to the invocation of the illegal alien act.

Even the “I don’t know what site that is”

So it's impossible for a person to not know exactly who owns or runs a site that showed up on google? You guys can't be serious lol. Again - the site does not matter if what they are reporting is verifiably true, which it was. What exactly is the issue with the site that I linked? Neither of you have actually pointed that out lol

when we provide actual court documents

Court documents that say the exact thing you're saying they DON'T say lol.

You: "Waaaah no judges said he is an MS-13 member, here's the proof!"

Also You: links to legal documents that mention multiple times that 2 judges determined him to be an MS-13 gang member

lol

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No, they weren’t! Quote me the legal text were the judge says that. You can’t, it’s not in there

Oh really? From the legal documents that YOU linked above, on page 9/13:

The respondent argues that the Immigration Judge clearly erred in determining that he is a verified member of MS-13 because there is no reliable evidence in the record to support such a finding (Respondent's Br. at 6-9).

Then further down on page 10, the second judge:

We adopt and affirm the Immigration Judge's danger ruling (IJ at 2-3)

Lets go further - Page 12:

The Court first reasoned that the Respondent failed to meet his burden of demonstrating that his release from custody would not pose a danger to others, as the evidence shows that he is a verified member of MS-13.

Page 13:

Regardless, the detennination that the Respondent is a gang member appears to be trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record, namely, infonnation contained in the Gang Field Interview Sheet. Although the Court is reluctant to give evidentiary weight to the Respondent's clothing as an indication of gang affiliation, the fact that a "past, proven, and reliable source of infonnation" verified the Respondent's gang membership, rank, and gang name is sufficient to support that the Respondent is a gang member, and the Respondent has failed to present evidence to rebut that assertion.

So on this:

Same as anybody. He should be given his court case.

What court case? He admits to being an illegal immigrant. He was determined to be an MS-13 member. He was ordered to be deported in court. Trump invoked the Illegal Alien act which was used to deport him regardless of any withholding status. He had his days in court (he could have had more but he decided not to show up, even admitting that he lied about not knowing about them).

So after all that, do you want to change what you said here?

Once it’s been found true beyond a reasonable doubt by a court, it is no longer alleged. Judges only say alleged when they mean that something is unproven. It’s pretty simple, I don’t how this is confusing to you.

The Judges here determined that he is a member of MS-13. It's pretty simple, I don't know how this is confusing to you.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago

Firstly I'm not in your country.

Secondly, you are arguing that an illegal immigrant who had TWICE been ordered to be deported.......should not only be allowed to stay in the USA, but to be brought back from his country (el salvador) into the country he was in illegally (USA).

Then you're calling me a "traitor" hahahahaha

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago

Yes it was alleged - and the courts agreed with the allegations and found them to be true TWICE.

What don't you understand about this?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (10 children)

lol ah yes, reading the facts of the case makes you a bootlicker. Good one.

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