WanderingVentra

I think every election cycle there's probably people who get jaded, hence all the non-voters.

And it's only 60 senate seats because they've decided it needs it. The majority sets the rules like that, they could make it happen if they wanted to and change them if they wanted to. The only time they've ever done it is to approve some Federal judges. Otherwise, they usually let the Republicans overturn norms, which just makes us go further right.

To be clear, we'd need a large movement in this country to abandon the Democratic party before I think it would work, but I think it's worth pushing for because the Dems seem like a lost cause, unless all of the leadership and entrenched establishment within there is changed at the same time. It's the same reason you can't change a corrupt police department by joining as a good cop. It just doesn't work that way. Besides, it's happened before in this country with a popular enough leader (it's why we don't have Whigs anymore, or a Bull Moose party).

I don't think it is easier. The DNC controls the processes and all the systems within their own party plus the media biases, while a third party who makes it to the general only has to contend with the normal difficulties of the media. They've done different kinds of maneuvering each of the last 3 primaries to prove this, not to mention other things like tipping the scales in local primaries or choosing that old guy over AOC for that committee seat they were fighting for.

A lot of anti-establishment voters went from Bernie to Trump, so I think the right candidate can maneuver this middle path, not by being a centrist but by appealing to people who hate the establishment in this country but want someone other than Trump after he no doubt fucks up again.

This wasn't the time to did it as it's always been done when everyone and their mother knew Trump was a dangerous fascist President and could see the warning signs of Biden's age.

2016, 2020, and 2024 made it obvious the Democratic Party will never let a progressive win the election. They will do whatever they need to do to mess with the election to prevent that from happening. 2016 they manipulated the media heavily, used delegates to manipulate numbers early to build support for her, manipulated graphs to make him seem like he was doing badly, constantly misconstrued Bernie's ideas in media interviews, gave her debate questions, and showed empty podiums Trump would sit at instead of Bernie speeches. 2020 they brought in Bloomberg who only entered to make sure Bernie didn't win, also did some media manipulation, kept trying to coopt some of his ideas in a more watered down form, and then called everyone but Warren, who shared the most voters with Bernie, to drop out at the same time after it looked like he could win. In 2024 they basically didn't even have a primary, with no debates, interviews with candidates, or anything, and even skipped it in some states. Once that process was over, he just handed the candidacy over to his VP.

They will always tip the scales and will never let it be fair if there is a danger of an outsider winning. The Democratic Party is a bunch of donors and industry staffers in a trench coat. I've basically given up on having any hope in it, this last election and it's support for "the most lethal army in the world" while we're enabling a genocide was the last straw.

For #2, Trump has a way of talking and carrying himself that makes him seem obviously like not one of the political elites around him. His plans are also wildly different than theirs (to the point of stupidity) and he seems ready to upend existing systems, which working-class people who those systems haven't helped like. Hillary was one of the most establishment candidates to ever exist, and Harris kept herself as basically 100% aligned to Biden during the election (and to other classic establishment Republicans like the Cheney).

Only if you consider history starting in October 7th.

They poop on heads though, which is negative points for me.

Biden didn't do enough to stop it? Dude, he actively facilitated it. He gave them weapons and money, including fast tracking a bunch, vetoed any resolution to help at the UN, criticized the ICJ and ICC for trying to hold them accountable, etc. Trump is just continuing Biden's genocidal legacy with the Trumpian twist of wanting to take the land and turn it into hotels and resorts.

We will keep our country by standing with as many groups as possible, not abandoning them. Although that seems to be th. Dem model.

Thanks! I would super appreciate that. I found that version, too, and got super hopeful when I did. Imagine my surprise when I played it and it turned out to be Chinese lol.

It should be in the Channel 4 streaming service you'd think, but it isn't for some reason. It's actually a great example of the role piracy has to play in archiving media and data.

The references are going to be a little out of date lol.