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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The examples you provide are negatively biased. You don't know all of the normal and useful things they learn because they don't stand out. Also two of those examples (Church and school busses) come from current cultural biases, something a solarpunk society would hopefully mitigate.

I think AI is not suited for discussion. It might be good at conversation but discussion isn't just conversation. Discussion requires understanding of others to a degree I don't think AI can achieve.

I concede my point about resources, but will add that the model will get outdated and will need retraining every once in a while.

Textbooks are bad. I agree. I just think they should be replaced with a human that knows what they are talking about and the topics that are learnt are things that the kid actually wants to know instead of what people think they should know.

Also I can't help but notice you ignored one of my core arguments: that solarpunk societies are about strong human connections and replacing one of the main sources of these connections is a bad idea.

I also think that the process of finding information is as important as the actual information. If all of your questions are answered just by typing it into the computer then you never learn the importance of checking information accuracy, accounting for bias and other very useful skills.

AI allows you to shortcut to the information you seek which means you never learn how to actually think for yourself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (15 children)

knowledge will obviously come from other sources too. When kids socialize with others they will learn things naturally, and discussion should absolutely be encouraged. However AI produces a lot of problems. AIs have bias based on the information they learn, they require resources to build and maintain and cannot discuss information accurately. I just don't see what AI adds over just interacting with other people.

Solarpunk societies, like all post-capitalist societies, are build on strong human relations, replacing one of the avenues of creating them with an hallucinating rock (exaggeration I know) just seems weird.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I don't think reading and maths needs to be obligatory. Kids will pick it up naturally through their own curiosity when trying to learn about something more advanced.

What you are describing is pretty close to a university. Which makes sense because universities are places of learning, unlike schools which are prisons of disciplining and the goal isn't to learn but to memorize minutia for about a month before moving to the next topic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (17 children)

I don't think we need AI. Without the need to constantly work the tutor can just be one of the child's parents. This would work better because children naturally respect and want to emulate their parents. The tutor doesn't even need to know everything and just teach how to analyze situations and find knowledge.

But I agree that kids should be included in workspaces to teach them about necessary (or interesting) jobs.

Overall I think the best way is to allow kids to find their own best ways to learn.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have been wanting to make games for a long time. I know rust and have been messing around with bevy. I also have thought a lot about game design and different game systems. Sadly none of my games have gone anywhere because I lose interest. It would be interesting to see if a bigger project will help with that.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Misinformation should be handled by moderation. Toxicity should be ignored because recognizing it gives it power. Off topic comments can easily be collapsed (or maybe there should be a method to mark them as off-topic by moderators) and off topic posts should be removed.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If you think something doesn't belong just ignore it. It does no harm by existing. If the downvote does anything people will use it for disagreeing.

I think disagreeing should be should be voiced in a reply instead so it becomes clear why you disagree.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

matrix.org is basically IRC 2.0. It's federated and has a lot of cool clients.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

there should be an instances button at the bottom of the page that shows it.

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