Tobberone

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah, no, livving isn't free. You aren't paid to study. However the loans offered, at least in Sweden, are at the lowest interest found. They even beat public sector interest rates. So you'd be hard pressed to find better terms.

Imagine having to pay 20-30k extra per year on top of that. Unless you are ambitious...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

How much is tuition?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, kinda, but not at all. You are trying to diminish something that has never been done before. Spin it any way you want, no country, oil producer or not, has reached a level where it is possible. And you get to benefit from it.

Had there not been a market for a new type of power train, nobody would have made the cars. So we may not like it, but Tesla and an oil producing country are in some ways instrumental in bringing about this change.

So, your allegory is only correct if your farmer is the first ever producer of vegan food. It's still a feat.

Look, I want oil to be deprecated as fast as anyone. That doesn't stop me from seeing the effects it would have if oil dried up tomorrow. Neither of us would like that world. So while it seems excruciatingly slow, we need to do it one step at a time. Now when the ball is rolling, it should start to pick up speed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

The directive on renewables state 2040 as the last sell by date for gas and diesel, so 2035 is well in line with that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Well, at least some of those aren't burnt on day one. Some, like water and drain pipes might be used for 50-70 years before replaced. Those are not part of the immediate problem. Others are though.

Taking a step back, looking at the bigger picture, is daunting, though. World wide, about 100 million barrels, or 16 billion litres, or roughly 4,22 billion US gallons, are produced. That's about the same volume as 700-1000 suburban two story buildings. Those will quickly become a mountain if they are stacked on top of each other.

That's the amount of oil that goes into making all those things above.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

So, you would rather that Norway didn't ban sales of ICE cars?

Question is, though, how much revenue can be replaced with other products? Or if the lesser demand on gas and diesel might take the margin of operations with it, and thus start a domino effect.

Oh, and in 2025 China will be at 50%+ EVs. That might make a dent in the oil economy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Because no matter how hard we crusade here, I still can't find anything other than lithium chemistry batteries.

Don't let perfect be in the way of good. First and foremost, we need to drive oil off the product spec. Even if it's not all refined products, each and every one of them will leave a hole in the industries revenue stream.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

AI will kill the internet as a social platform.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Yeah... In fourth grade I was taught that there is nothing like an outer foe to create inner peace. I never imagined it to be the US to accomplish that, but here we are.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I didn't read super intelligence into it, I read overdoing and I found that it struck home. I don't know math either, but if I did, I would have done the same calculation.

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