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Not only desires, but demands it and threatens eternal torture if you don't give it to them. An important distinction.

Those are two things; evolution and abiogenesis. We have evolution well sorted, to the point where our entire understanding and implementation of biological science depends on it.

Abiogenesis is not as well fleshed out, but we are miles ahead on it now than we were even 20 years ago. Do we have a strict, proven explanation and timeline? No, not yet. Do we have nothing? Not even close. Is it worth throwing our hands up and going "I don't know, therefore god"? I don't think so.

I think you'll find that most believers of intelligent design and a God being don't think about it too hard. Obviously there are plenty of apologists in the world whos job it is to discuss and debate this stuff, but they are the faaaaar minority and most have a financial stake in the matter.

For evolution take a look at Gutsick Gibbon on youtube and for abiogensis look up Forrest Valkai. They're both incredible educators.

Look at the trees!

The quran also says to kill infidels. You good with that?

Stopped clock and all that.

What do you think the difference between atheism and agnosticism is??

Generally none. I assume the "agnostic" part whenever someone says they are an atheist.

Now gnostic atheism is a different beast entirely.

Consciousness fits most definitions of supernatural

No. In fact it quite strongly fits within the definiton of natural as we can plainly see it in our natural world and be affected by natural processes.

I believe in the possibility of a creator, be it a single omniscient/omnipresent/omnipowerful/etc being or some natural process we do not understand.

But do I have enough evidence to swear fealty to any particular thing that might occupy this role? Fuck no.

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I do care. I'm just not worried.

Where does it sound like I'm worried?

Note: This is how pedantic internet arguments start.

More Fox sources. Totally trustworthy.

Mmm yes, give your money to the "billionaire". Fools and their money and all that.