Tenderizer78

The Australian system is problematic because of apathy, the American system is problematic because of straight malice. And in Australia the supreme court recently ruled that indefinite detention without the prospect of release is illegal, in America the supreme court ruled Trump can sell immigrants into slavery.

Australia is nowhere near as bad as the US. I don't even know where to start correcting you.

OpenSUSE because rolling release and no IBM. Never used it though.

Currently I use Mint. It works but it's not the best.

I'd be kinda shocked if in, in 2025, any download of a DE opened X org up to remote connections by default. But I will double check.

What kind of threats could affect Xorg? I can't imagine anything really exploiting the display manager without arbitrary code execution elsewhere (not that I know anything at all about software security).

I guess the biggest risk is whichever browser I use becoming a Wayland exclusive and not getting updates.

Thanks, that's a very clear response. I guess I basically can use it until X11 stops getting security updates. I wonder whether an X11 vulnerability can trigger a serious vulnerability even if it doesn't get security updates.

No idea what that -nolisten stuff is about. Is that to do with the firewall?

I started writing out a question, but I realized I need a better understanding of what an insecure desktop environment even means first.

The question I want to ask here is, what does "secure" and "insecure" mean in the context of a DE. What distinguishes a secure and insecure DE from a practical perspective (physical access, privilege escalation, rootkits, etc.).

Looking at the FAQ, they do "maintain" their version of TQt3. Whether they maintain it to the extent that it's secure is anyone's guess. There's always the question of what kinds of exploits can even exist in a desktop environment (which I should add to my original post).

It's good that it looks to be still maintained, but I imagine their resources are limited with so little market share and it doesn't look like they have the resources to switch to Wayland (which I assume is more secure).

I'm not sure my noob questions are worthy of asking the devs directly.

The American example is so true.

I didn't even consider the possibility that people would consider Republicans to be literally the result of a Chinese plot (although there was open Russian intervention on Trump's side). But I suppose it is entirely possible people would read things this and come to that conclusion.