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Yeah it's kind of useless. The apps you listed are available, but for example Newgrounds is banned.

IDK about the second thing about the encrypted apps, but I would expect them to do it. But some people have been jailed for criticizing Erdogan.

and IDK what place Turkey is, but yeah it has a very high number.

Erdogan pls don't put me in jail

Yeah, they are in alot of websites. Buat now, even if you block trackers on your browser aggresively and use apps without fb tracking etc. etc. your data will still be collected by fb with this thing.

One alternative is going offline :D

"ah yes, sweet metadata of other people who don't even use our products."

I knew they were very data-hungry, but NOT THAT MUCH.

I'm really concerned about this.

Well, Meta can still do their practices though. And I fear it will be even worse since they can know when you texted, who you texted, where you texted, for how long you texted in WA and i fear this will spread to other platforms too.

Hmm, yeah true. More people can take a look at the code, find vulnarabilities and fix it. Then it should be open-source too, since it would also be hard to bypass even if that happened. So there's not really an argument to not make it open-source.

I do not have the knowledge, time or money to set up my own servers for those sadly. And it would probably take time for my family to adjust to those.

Tried it about a month ago, it felt barebones so I deleted it but it's quickly updating, might check it again!

Hocam öncelikle eyvallah. :D Ama ben başladığım işi bitiremeden içime huzur girmez. Annem ile Signal'den yazışıyoruz bile. :D

[Matrix]/XMPP güzel seçenekler, kendi sunucum olursa zaten gizlilik benim elimde olur ama o konularda hiç bilgim yok. Olsaydı bile sunucu için param yok, kendi bilgisayarım kötü ve ailemin öyle bir öyle bir ortama alışabileceğini sanmıyorum.

Verdiğin linke benzer bir şeyler okumuştum, bazı iyi noktaları var ama çoğunun karşı-argümanları (tam doğru kelimeyi bulamadım) var çoğunun. Tabii bazıları hala önemini koruyor ve kritik noktalar.

Hayırlı geceler diliyorum.

Hmm, good points.
Most of these have some kind of (strong or weak) counter-arguments.
I have mixed thoughts about the first point, they kinda have some good points though.2 and 4 got resolved, very critical issues nonetheless, shouldn't have happened. The 3rd point seems kinda OK, I'm sure they would like the idea of making that open-source, but that would probably make it bypassable, correct me if im wrong. I didn't know about the fifth! The reason they gave also seems defenseless.

Concerning situations for all of the points.

Not trying to hate or back up Signal here, just my opinions.

I said this in Reddit, I will say it here too.

"Well,

(Note: Most of my family and friends don't really care about privacy.)

So, it's kiiiiinda about my privacy, since I do NOT feel comfortable using a Meta product.

Because most of my family have FB, FB Messenger, IG and/or (well, of course) WA."

+I want to increase their privacy and security as well.