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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

even though there's really no evidence for that

Ironic considering you've presented no evidence to support that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Ok, but now you are assuming intent of the news desk still without evidence. I get where you're coming from, but without actual evidence showing a clear organizational bias for a certain narrative, making that assumption isn't anymore valid than assuming the actual reporters intent.

And again, furthering a viewpoint does not make propaganda. Virtually all news is going to further one viewpoint or another, even if the organization and writer are 100% unbiased. Facts usually don't maintain a neutral ground on a topic.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

You've kind of arrived at the point while ignoring it.

Propaganda requires intent. You are correct that we can't know their intent directly, therefore we can only use evidence to try to determine the authors intent.

Admittedly I did not pick the article a part, but I saw no tell-tale signs of propaganda. It was primarily interviews with doctors. I saw no signs of manipulative wording, attempts at persuasion, or unsupported opinions of the writer.

While I can't definitively say this article is not propaganda, it probably isn't.

So it's not propaganda until you can provide good evidence that it is.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (7 children)

So to you propaganda is a synonym for news, and that is simply incorrect.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So you just don't know what propaganda is, got it.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (19 children)

I think you might be using too broad a definition of propaganda. The result of influencing opinion does not make something propaganda. Propaganda needs some intent to persuade or push an agenda.

The article might be propaganda, largely that depends on the motivations for writing and publishing it. But the fact that the content of the article might change people's opinions does not make it propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 years ago (21 children)

Just because an individual case doesn't fit the trend does not automatically make the news propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's where you're wrong.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Why not? This thread hits literally every other obnoxious take on the topic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Man, people here really overreact to artists paying money to promote their stuff.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Buddy, get some help. Seriously.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Despite the technicality, nobody refers to using a credit card and immediately paying it off as 'going into debt' and if you use it that way people aren't going to understand what you're meaning.

The credit system is screwy, but if you can't see the difference between social score and a financial score, that's on you.

Credit ratings are done internationally between countries, and most countries have some sort of internal credit scoring system. It's hardly US specific, aside from our specific implementation.

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