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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

According to roaep,about 200.000 votes

Still,it's encouraging they were just below UDMR as the largest of the smaller parties

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Romanian parliamentary elections results with all votes counted

Electoral threshold to get into Parliament is 5%

PSD: 22.30%

AUR: 18.30%

PNL: 14.28%

USR: 12.26%

SOS Romania: 7.76%

POT: 6.39%

UDMR: 6.38%

Well,not great,but not terrible

Possible coalitions are an unholy PSD-USR-PNL alliance, a cordon sanitaire against the reactionary right, very up in the air, seeing as USR was the anti-establishment party when it was founded and the two others are the establishment

PNL-PSD-UDMR could theoretically happen but it would get people to riot seeing the exact same coalition what was in power until now stay in power and only supercharge the anti establishment reactionaries

The other obvious one is the reactionary Frankenstein AUR-SOS-POT,but SOS is a wildcard, oscillating between being pro Georgescu to anti Georgescu

Anyway,the country is basically ungovernable and any coalition would have a hard time doing much of anything

Next week,the second round of the presidential elections and the end of this absolutely insane election season

Edit:PSD is basically the kingmaker

They decide to ditch the liberals,it's libover

They back them,they squeak out a cordon sanitaire against the reactionaries

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't,sadly

I think it was just a symptom of the party not having a strong base and being imposed by the soviets,coupled with the reactionary sentiment that wasn't fully dealt with after 1945

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

At the most he would have kept Russia and Belarus,maybe Ukraine into a common bloc

Yugoslavia was a lost case at that point,with the ethnonationalist Milosevic and his genocidal separatists duking it out with the other Croatian genocidal separatists

I think had that happened,the most that would have changed is the EU and NATO not expanding into the east as much,with the current easternmost EU members being the equivalents of pre 2014 Ukraine

Also,the "socdem" parties were made up of the traitors that sold out communism in those countries,they would never be pro soviet

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Also the fact that pizza guy ensured communism in EE had to go

Still,very idiosyncratic guy and did more harm to communism in Romania than good

Also,he did the monumentally stupid thing of banning abortion and created a generation of neglected kids who were snatches up by the westerners after the revolution

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Basically things were fine,then BAM!, Kim family type personality cult with no material basis like it was in Korea, cozying up to the west, IMF loan after IMF loan and rehabilitating anti Soviet nazis like Antonescu to really stick it to the Soviets

This goes about as well as one might think, culminating in actual breadlines caused by austerity in order to pay the loans, pays them off months before he is couped and shot

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (8 children)

No,that's Hoxha,he's the actual existing Nazbol guy

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't dispute it being one,but you have to understand there are young people that are that europilled

You don't understand until you live in a post Warsaw Pact country,but the youth has a sizeable Atlanticist contingent

[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (12 children)

Romanian parliamentary elections today. So, now I'm gonna give an overview of the contenders and place them in three main blocs: the Establishment, the Liberal opposition and the Reactionary opposition. Also important to mention today is Romania's national day, 105 years since the "Great Union" where the state of Romania achieved it's greatest territorial extent. Next week will be the second round of the presidential elections and the end of the election season for us. I think I'll put together a smaller post giving a more concise view of the two candidates. No predictions about the results of this one, seeing as the last time I tried my hand at predicting outcomes we had a complete overturning of the traditional electoral system. I would suggest having Romania as the COTW after the election season is over, so 9-15 December, so we can have a more holistic overview of what went on after the dust has settled. That being said, let's start with the overview.

The Establishment

PSD: Social Democratic Party

The biggest political force of post communist Romania, this party has its origins in Ion Iliescu's FSN (Front of National Salvation) formed after the coup against Ceaușescu in 1989. Basically all the big movers and shakers in Romanian politics are in this party or had dealings with it. The face of the establishment in Romanian politics for over 30 years, it has little in common with the common conception of social democrats, basically being a center right party made up of former communist elites who parceled out the country between themselves. Now is in a crisis due to this being the first time since 1989 that they did not manage to get their candidate in the second round of the presidential elections. Has not backed either Lasconi or Georgescu, the theory is they're waiting to back Lasconi after the parliamentary elections are done so as to not look bad, seeing as she is the candidate of the party that started the Liberal opposition to the establishment.

PNL: National Liberal Party

The other face of the establishment, this is the even more center right counterpart to PSD, which is a "historical party", basically they exited prior to communism. The modern party was formed by a merger between the party reestablished by political prisoners who were members of the party prior to communism and emigres who came back, who was against the FSN in the 90s and the right splinter of the FSN, the PD (Democratic Party), which took place in 1992. Second strongest force in modern Romanian politics, fell off hard after they formed a coalition government with PSD in 2021, which stands until today. The reason this fucked them hard was because they always positioned themselves against the PSD. They won in the previous elections, in 2019 and formed a cabinet with USR, the beginners of the Liberal opposition. After it fell apart in 2021, this was seen to be a stab in the back by the people and now they are being relegated to below third place. Still licking their wounds after the disastrous results for their candidate in the first round of the presidential elections, they're backing Lasconi unconditionally.

UDMR: Democratic Alliance of Hungarians in Romania

Hungarian minority big tent party, have an agreement with PSD where PSD does some electioneering and sends some votes their way to get them into parliament and they enter coalitions with PSD. Called the Hungarian branch of the PSD.

Splinters: Parties that split from them, formed by people who were kicked out after corruption scandals or political power games, hold similar ideology and are very connected with the establishment

PSDU: United Social Democratic Party

Small splinter, not really relevant, did a weird Tik Tok campaign about education reform where the party head responded to kid's comments and urged them to tell their parents to vote. No real ideology, probably only exists so that people who don't really look at their ballots vote for them accidentally.

PSDI: Independent Social Democratic Party

Another small splinter, formed by Geoană, world class loser, who lost to Băsescu in the Bucharest mayoral elections in 2004 and then again in 2009 at the presidential elections. Party mainly composed of those who were kicked out of PSD for corruption and were friends with Geoană or his partner in crime, Vanghelie. Backing Georgescu.

FD: Force of the Right

Formed in 2021, by the former Prime Minister of Romania, Ludovic Orban, it basically is the party made up of those who split form the PNL on the basis of refusing to enter into a coalition with PSD and some other minor conservative parties who shacked up with them. Backs Lasconi.

PNCR: National Conservative Party

Right-PSD splinter, the head of the party is the guy who asked for a recount of the first round of the parliamentary elections. Also, he's a double citizen, and a registered member of the actual motherfucking Republican Party in California. Similar rhetoric to Georgescu.

ANC: National Christian Alliance

Another Right-PSD splinter. From what I have seen, they have a similar rhetoric to the German CDU. Unclear if the whole party backs Georgescu, but one member did.

Reactionary opposition

AUR: Alliance for the Unification of Romanians

The flagship party of the current iteration of the reactionary opposition, formed in 2019, this very day, on the centennial of the Unification, it is a Euroskeptic, but pro-NATO gaggle of the worst people imaginable, anti-LGBTQ, hardline pro-religion and with an overcurrent of leigionarism. Has come back to its radical roots after moderating its discourse after 2021. Anti-vax, they were the vanguard of the hogs who refused to wear masks during the pandemic in our country. Wants to reunify with Moldova, anti-Ukraine, the leader of the party is banned from entering both Moldova and Ukraine. Pro Georgescu.

S.O.S Romania

Pro-Russian splinter from AUR in 2021, as a result of them moderating their discourse, now being the second more recognizable face of the reactionary opposition due to their party leader, Diana Șoșoacă being a very bombastic and boisterous person, as well as being a serial poster. Currently big mad at Geogescu for taking the wind out of their sails, they oscillate between endorsing him and denouncing him.

POT: Party of the Young People

Newcomer, supposedly Georgescu's own party, may see a big rise in the elections today due to them being aligned with him. Reactionary, as the last two, also filled with cranks who deny basic science, anti-vax.

Smaller parties

POC: Party of Faithful People

Obscure reactionary party, only notable thing is that the leader said he's the most faithful believer in the whole country.

PPR: Romanian Patriots Party

Small reactionary party, fascists who chant legionary slogans and champion their rhetoric. Backing Georgescu.

UGT: Geto-Dacian Union

Crank party, want to restore Dacia. yes, you heard that correctly, they want to restore the ancient pre-Roman conquest kingdom of Dacia. representative of crank ideological current started by Ceaușescu, which places undue importance on the Dacian part of the Romanian ethnogenesis, going as far as claiming the Romans were descended from Dacians and that the Dacians created civilization. Ceaușescu started this because of his weird nazbol cultural policies that sought to distance Romanian identity from the Slavs and the Romans, who were perceived to be foreign invaders during his tenure.

PNR: New Romania Party

Obscure reactionary party, its leader created a site for conspiracy theories.

LAN: League of the Nationalist Action

Another obscure reactionary party, apparently some connections to some people who were in the secret services.

ADN: Alternative for National Dignity

Small reactionary party, their presidential candidate was the daughter of the owner of a television station.

Uncertain

Small parties, that can't be placed in the other categories.

PRA: Romania in Action Party

Geoană's party. Political leftovers.

DREPT: Justice and Respect in Europe for All Party

USR splinter. Political leftovers, ties with AUR.

PV: Green Party

Don't let the names of this party and the next one confuse you, "green" parties in Romania have nothing in common with the green parties ion the west, instead being made up of irrelevant political leftovers who use some environmentalist rhetoric. Currently rudderless and without any real leadership.

PER: Ecologic Romanian Party

Same as above, collaborated with PSD.

Liberal opposition

USR: Save Romania Party

Face of the liberal opposition, started in 2016, formed from the USB (Save Bucharest Union) which had a big boost in that period due to the Colectiv nightclub fire of 30th of October, the deadliest nightclub fire in Romanian history and the corruption scandals around Liviu Dragnea, the then PSD prime minister. Entered government in 2019 in a coalition with the liberals, got kicked out in 2021, broke into multiple pieces, and now the corpse of the party is puppeteered by neoliberal Democrat party style libertarians.

REPER: Renewing Romania's European Project

USR splinter, hardline Eurocrats, often accused of being technocratic Bruxellesist suits, even more EU-pilled than USR is.

SENS: Health, Education, Nature, Stability

USR splinter, only vaguely leftish political party, European socdem and Bernie Sanders coded. My progressive friends are voting for them, and I would have too, had I not been away from my city. Most progressive party, but still disappointingly pro-EU and NATO, but confusingly pro-Palestine.

Leftovers

PCR: Socialist Romanian Alliance

Fringe Marxist-Leninist party, socially regressive, basically a couple of pro-Ceaușescu boomers.

I again used the video made by Silviu Faiar as a guide, adding some of my own knowledge. Link: https://youtu.be/7WX_50BzJFg

Edit: accidentally deleted lmao

Anyway, here's the song of the day: https://youtu.be/bJ7gdKHR4U8

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fuck this western slave, ranting about capitalism and then going on to lick the EU boot

An embarrassment to Georgia

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

No,he was just massively signal boosted

Thing is,most people who don't use TikTok literally didn't know about him until this Monday

Anyway,this was a protest vote against the Social Democrat and Liberal duopoly and a wish to distance ourselves from the Ukraine war

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

Bruh,this will be one hell of a way to take back the Budjak

Also, Romania being anywhere beyond the Dnieper has never been historically good

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