QuietCupcake

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You're right, there is definitely theory reasons too, but I think that's more general to states as a concept and doesn't do much to explain the specific grudge against the USSR or why there seems to be hatred for it that goes beyond states in general. There's historical reasons for that specific hate of course, which other comments covered better than I could, but I answered the way I did because of Frank's (OP's) edit about sources of information.

I think there's still another aspect for the specific anti-Soviet sentiment that has to do with many anarchists wanting to differentiate themselves from MLs or "tankies." Since we all agree we're on the left, there's a desire for a lot of anarchists to draw a clear distinction between themselves and those they perceive as adversaries or enemies, and strong disapproval with the USSR is a pretty obvious way to do that. I suspect part of that may in some cases come from a kind of "I'm one of the good ones" or "pick me" attitude, since they can say to liberals "yes, I am a radical leftist, but I'm not like those bad authoritarian tankies that we all know are the bad guys!" But the need to do even that I think has a lot to do with the general anti-communist milieu, that "malware" we're all indoctrinated with by default.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (13 children)

I think AssortedBiscuits answered your question in the first couple sentences of their comment:

Most Westerners already hate communists and carry the grudge against the USSR. Anarchists don't really deviate too much from some generic Westerner.

It's really not any deeper than that. There's no need or reason to single out anarchists from any other average westerner when analyzing the source of animosity for the USSR because the answer is going to be the same whether you're talking about chuds, liberals, or anarchists. Even the non-western anarchists who hold a grudge against the USSR, the answer is probably still the same just because of the prevalence of western cultural hegemony all over the world. In your edit, you specify:

I'm curious about what information sources - mentors, friends, books, TV, cultural osmosis, conveys that information to people. Where do individuals encounter this information and how does it become important to them.

But the answer to that is the same information sources you yourself were probably exposed to early on. It's all the same shit we're steeped in, the ubiquity of anti-communism throughout western culture. Animal Farm and 1984 were required reading for me in junior high and high school respectively. The class discussions around these books were centered around teaching us that the USSR was corrupt, oppressive, and that these communist ideals that may sound like good ideas will always and invariably lead to "authoritarianism" and "totalitarian dictatorships" like the Soviet Union. Everyone absorbs that shit young, even the people who might later go on to question the truth of what they were taught, like anarchists.

You say

Newly minted Anarchists have to learn to hate Lenin and Stalin and whoever else they have a grudge against.

But no they don't. Not as newly-minted anarchists anyway. That brainworm software was already installed long ago before they became anarchists. A major part of becoming a leftist is going through a process of uninstalling all that brainworm malware. Anarchists who still hate the Soviet Union are people who have been successful at uninstalling much of the brainworm malware, it's just that they haven't completed the process by uninstalling the anti-Soviet or anti-"tankie" worms... yet. And I say all this as someone who long considered themself an anarchist.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

You can do it, comrade. Try to keep yourself occupied and engaged with things, just preferably not things you're only used to doing while smoking tho. I'm sure you know all that already, but those kind of small reminders were helpful for me.

You got this. success

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

I mean he's old enough that statistically he really should have, he's over 100 now so it's a bit shocking when you remember that he hasn't. I always remember he's alive just because of those factoids though. He's been alive for 40% of the entire history of this despicable settler colonial fash country.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

How tf did the dems fuck up so bad?

×gesturing broadly in all directions×

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago
  • Gaza if anything has an ever slightly better chance than if the current regime that is currently funding its genocide had won.

  • Yeah, Ukraine is fucked, but it was anway and would be no matter who won. Also, this is a good thing.

  • No more than they already were.

  • No more than they already were.

  • No more than they already were.

  • The Biden/Harris regime loved doing brinkmanship to bring us closer to WW3 and did so far more than Trump did during his previous presidency. We'll see though.

  • The Biden/Harris regime did more deportation than Trump, they built his wall, and they were promising to do even more to ruin lives and families if elected again. It was a competition with Trump on who could be worse and more evil.

  • It does suck that Elon Musk is probably happy, I agree.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is so fucking grim. The rot of American cultural hegemony has already so thoroughly infected so much of the globe. To know that it's not just getting worse but accelerating, killing even faster any actual culture the world over, it really drives me into a doomer emotional state.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

When I go there, it still says

"502 Bad Gateway. The backend of this service is currently down, but it will probably be up again soon."

But yeah, hopefully it will be soon, so I'll keep checking. We need more invidious instances, especially now when almost all the youtube frontends got wiped out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yellowstone take my energy ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I just wanted to broaden the horizon and yap about an interest

It was an excellent comment, I learned from it and have an even deeper appreciation for GPS now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I agree that GPS has had a significant even profound effect on us as a global society and as individuals, I just think that it's far from the only technology that has. But fair enough on it being one of the better examples.

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