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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sure, it is, and what Israel chooses to do with the support is entirely up to them, but we aren’t supplying them so they can continue a genocide, we are supplying them for their own defense.

If they keep using weapons we ship them "for defense" for genocide then we are shipping them weapons for genocide, you can't just feign ignorance when it is so obvious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

No, that’s not defense. Defense is shooting down the Iranian missile attacks. Legitimate defense is why Biden approves sending support to Israel.

Isn't killing occupying Israeli forces committed to genocide defense?

It isn't just missile interceptors:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68737412.amp

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Israel has the right to defend itself from attacks

Is killing hundreds of thousands of civilians with something like 70 percent women/children casualties defending itself? If genocide is required to defend itself, it should be destroyed.

Also, Palestinians have a right to armed resistance against an occupying force in accordance with international law. Do you support the United Front's right to defend itself against Israel?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (8 children)

No, the argument was that he was so enthusiastic about genocide that he was willing to break the law to be a vital part of it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Did you read the article because your response article doesn't really address it, or the moral culpability of it either

Like, is the argument you're making that congress also approves of giving weapons to allow genocide, so it is fine actually?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If there is one thing this Genocide on its way to Holocaust has shown us. is that the Democrat Party leadership are without a doubt sociopaths of the worst kind

Nah, they're normal people well adjusted to an evil system. The trial of the nazis showed that it wasn't mental illness, just normal people doing very evil things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (12 children)

but neither Biden nor Harris are the ones out there targeting individuals or pulling triggers.

Isn't this pres admin breaking US law to send even more weapons for the genocide?

https://truthout.org/articles/former-official-biden-state-department-bending-us-law-to-send-israel-weapons/

You use "oh it is just iron dome stuff" rhetoric but that's not true, and even if it was, a defensive system lets them take violent actions with less worry of retaliation

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This you?

Do you often make up fantasies about strangers on the internet that you lose arguments to?

Source: https://lemmy.ml/post/21396576/14301383

That is what your little middle school demonstration of informal logical fallacies are though, you're substituting arguments for "um actually fallacy" like it is some checkmate that dismisses everything people are saying.

Notice how you went for an "um actually I didn't technically say those words" instead of responding to this:

You’re straight up doing it though, like, your nuanced bullshit around Israeli settlers and indigenous Palestinians.

Genocide isn't morally complicated, and the fact that you're debate broing about it defensively when people say shit that is just objectively correct, like, "Israel is a settler colonial state commiting genocide" is a real indication that maybe you should step back for five minutes and check in with yourself.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You're straight up doing it though, like, your nuanced bullshit around Israeli settlers and indigenous Palestinians.

Consider that you have to keep declaring victory because you're aware on some level that you're wrong on this.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (4 children)

You'd say "its nuanced" about colonizers killing indigenous tribes and the indigenous tribes fighting back.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (6 children)

A 1000 year Middle East conflict “isn’t a complex issue”?

Israel as a settler colonial entity is around 100 years old. Before that, Christians, Muslims, and Jews lived in the same area with very little sectarian violence for around 800 years.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

(just straight up misogyny)

Scratched liberal alert

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