founding fathers didn't explicitly say where to shit so our hands are tied
Melonius
joined 2 years ago
I agree, but if we're on other instances I only mean to correct their bigotry and false statements so others see that they're wrong.
Ideally they'd be banned already and there's nothing to respond to.
sick dilapidated drapes
Just to clarify what I meant, I personally don't mind remaining federated but I'm still new here. I think fascists should absolutely be challenged, argued with, and shut down, but it's not even something I'm totally comfortable with doing myself yet.
I'm condescending because it's hard to express, but I feel sad for them because I can't tell if their admin team has been bullied in to submission by that one community or something else. It's condescending of me because their instance has a ton of history and I can't possibly comprehend it in the couple of days we've been federated. I think all the admin posts I've read have been fairly reasonable but are coming from a passive and overly tolerant lib mindset. I still remember being there (still am really) and it's a horrible feeling.
Anyways, thanks for everything you all do!
It seems to me that instance has a very evident and festering 
problem, which is incredibly strange for what is supposed to be a pro-trans instance.
They're being tone policed down to 
levels, but they're still spreading the same hateful talking points that prevents the free expression that the admin team supposedly desires.
This is my first time seeing it first hand but it's so obvious and transparent that their liberal well intentioned inclusiveness has already backfired horrifically. When hexbear users confront these tone-adjusted fascists and question their hateful anti-left stance (something the mods and admin team should be doing but lack the spine) they cry and demand defed because their views absolutely can not stand up to any sort of serious analysis.
I will say I would not have seen this without federation. It genuinely makes me appreciate the amazing community thats been cultivated here because it's not easy to challenge, and remove, a polite abuser standing next to you.
If anyone is communicating with their admin team, I think they should be told to wake up because it will only get worse before their community is co-opted and they're the ones being "tolerated." I am being constantly reminded of this https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g?t=677
The fact that calling it out plays in to the fascists hands is pretty depressing too.
A forklift with F-150 doors stapled on comes off the line
"They've made an artistic recreation of the Frankenstein that is Capitalism!"
That's so dystopian
Some of them are. It's difficult to tell if they're using bad arguments in good faith or bad faith, but it is so obviously transparent they have a 
problem when you engage with the user and they resort to insults or act like they're being attacked
Yeah it might be more simple than that. The horrible thing about propaganda is you don't need to have ill intent or even understand it, you just need to repeat it and the damage is done.
Not dehumanizing at all. Maybe this will help them feel more comfortable?
It's really strange, I thought the alt right playbook vids were being overdramatic with the Nazi bar syndrome. I can't tell if the concern trollers are unintentionally libbing out or just fascists doing their job to prevent any sort of left unity. Same thing maybe.
I don't want to insult anyone by calling them a bot or a bad actor, but I feel more safe posting here than over in their supposedly "less troll" instance.
I think that response is weird. Feels like a nice pat on the back, "you see someone who's a friend and is saying stuff that is good, but they're bad, and you should cut them off. Also that's a good sign that you have so many friends?" And an NPR podcast? Like it feels so on the nose I'm doubting reality
I think your responses were more than forgiving, and the troll responses were so obviously in bad faith that I'm surprised they're still up?
This is all a bit new to me but holy shit. I don't want to assume the worst but I saw that other guy puppeting accounts earlier?