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wow I wish we learned this kind of stuff in school

Don't let the Firefox fanboys cloud your judgement with their constant shilling. Most of the claims in the article have been retracted after Brave responded, and the issue didn't affect users anyway.

Also, Brave is a completely independent search engine now, which is why they have web crawlers like the guy in the article is complaining about. And speaking of a distributed crawler, Brave Browser has an opt-in feature for that where sites you visit will be indexed by Brave Search.

Brave Search is the only real contender to be an actual competitor for Google Search, but these Firefox fanatics have such a hate boner for Brave they just want to see it fail. All of their arguments against Brave really aren't serious and don't affect users at all.

Brave had a thing where if you went to website.com, they would add /ref=brave to the URL so they get a kickback as if you clicked on their referral link.

Sneaky? Sure. A huge scandal? I don't think so. No user data was being collected, no privacy was being violated. If I was the company doing the referral system I'd be mad, but as a user, it does not affect me at all.

Firefox fanatics just need something to point to and say "brave bad firefox good" and that is the worst thing they can find on Brave. It's all browser wars to them, like iPhone vs Android or Xbox vs Playstation.

The article in this post also does not affect users in anyway, and has been updated after Brave responded, with most of the worst claims of the article now retracted.

Every single one of these Brave "scandals" are so irrelevant and meaningless. I was hoping the reddit hive mind wouldn't be brought over to lemmy, but here we are.

This article, especially after the update from Brave, seems like a huge nothing-burger. Just another excuse for the Firefox Fanatics crowd to rag on Brave and circlejerk each other about how good Firefox is.

The article isn't even about Brave Browser, and it has nothing to do with user data. The website owner is mad that Brave Search is crawling their site and using data in their "Summarizer" feature. I thought Firefox users were supposed to be against the Google internet monopoly, but apparently when it comes to one of the only companies with their own independent and actually decent search engine, they don't seem to care anymore because of stupid "Firefox good brave bad" browser wars nonsense.

is this thread really 2 years old?

I thought about using comodo firewall a while back, but their software just seems so shady..

tech people get annoyed at the weirdest shit...

definitely!

unfortunately the thing about them eating ticks has been shown to only occur in captive opossums

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/opossum-pest-control/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34298355/

Well in my experience, Firefox is definitely slower, and it is immediately apparent that it is much jankier than Chrome. And as the many posts I linked above show, I am not the only one with this experience.

Also it's hilarious how I give a source and now the goal posts are moved and the benchmarks are "synthetic"

CPU and GPU benchmarks are also "synthetic" but they still show actual differences between what is being tested.

Qualitatively and quantitatively, Firefox is slower.

These issues are posted about about all the time:

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1030fri/why_does_firefox_feel_slowchoppy/

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/y5o8io/i_love_firefox_but_many_popular_websites_are_slow/

https://www.reddit.com/r/computerscience/comments/12jpdft/why_is_firefox_so_slow_compared_to_other_web/

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/11utln3/firefox_feels_slow/

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/11y2139/why_is_firefox_so_slow/

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/gg8424/why_is_firefox_so_slow/

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/12k4ysr/why_does_reddit_run_slow_on_my_firefox/

And everyone wonders why Firefox has less than a 3% market share

EDIT: Also here are actual benchmark numbers for a more quantitative analysis: https://www.pttrns.com/fastest-browsers-for-windows-10/

What's wrong with Firefox?!

I will get downvotes for this, but you asked:

Firefox is slow and glitchy, and lots of websites break or just perform worse than chrome.

Firefox used to have ~30% market share around 13 years ago, when it was better than the competition. The reason it's dropped so significantly is because better options came along (chrome)

I understand the arguments about Google controlling the internet through chromium. I would love for Firefox to actually be the best browser, but it's not.

And since Firefox users ignore these citisisms and act like it's the best browser ever, there is not enough pressure for Firefox to actually fix these issues, since their users act like it's already the best thing available and perfect in every way. It's very similar to why Linux doesn't catch on.

I have tried just about every browser available. I will use the one that performs the best and has the best features. Currently that is Brave, which is a great browser, but I would absolutely jump to Firefox if things changed and it became the best performing option.