Makeshift

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[–] Makeshift 1 points 2 years ago

I'm an American lmao. But sure man, whatever argument you can come up with am I right?

[–] Makeshift 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

No. You just have absolutely no knowledge of political science or what ideologies like progressivism or neoliberalism are.

Also funny how you completely ignore my point about how even focusing just on America, Obama is still not progressive. You seem to not have any idea what we're even discussing

Are you even clicking on my sources? Or just picking the first tiny thing you can find a critique for and pulling a response out of your ass? The thing about "global standards" was a small aside that while true was not the point of the conversation.

Here's a bunch of more sources you probably won't read if you want to educate yourself on what political terms mean:

https://www.vox.com/polyarchy/2019/6/11/18660240/democrats-neoliberalism

https://progressive.org/op-eds/barack-obama-not-my-hero-pitchford-201214/

https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?p=LitRC&u=googlescholar&id=GALE|A356354197&v=2.1&it=r&sid=LitRC&asid=6e89d156

[–] Makeshift 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The conversation is centered around whether Obama was a progressive. He was not.

Progressivism isn't just confined to the US, so yes people are talking about progressivism with the full context of the global political spectrum in mind.

But even within the US, Obama is nowhere close to a real progressive like Bernie Sanders, who has been consistently fighting for leftist values for decades.

[–] Makeshift -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

I'm talking about progressivism as a defined political ideology, not a vauge statement of making progress.

Obamas healthcare plan was inherently neoliberal, which is a centrist, or even center-right ideology. The market exchange is a capitalist solution to the problem that the health care companies can profit from

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

It's no secret the Democrats aren't exactly left leaning by global standards, in reality they are a center-right party that mainly still practices Neoliberalism

[–] Makeshift 2 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Obama has said it himself on multiple occasions

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2010/apr/01/barack-obama/obama-says-heritage-foundation-source-health-excha/

Was it terrible? No. But it was a half measure, already a compromise and the watered down more by Republicans. it was absolutely not progressive, it was liberal/centrist at best.

A progressive health care plan would be a single payer universal healthcare system

[–] Makeshift -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (16 children)

The ACA was a right wing health care plan proposed by the heritage foundation, a conservative think tank.

EDIT: Not to say it didn't help people, I've also benefited from it, but it's not exactly progressive

EDIT 2: This is not my opinion, Obama said it himself. Here is a source:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2010/apr/01/barack-obama/obama-says-heritage-foundation-source-health-excha/

[–] Makeshift 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

.ch (Switzerland) and .me (Montenegro) both seem pretty stable and safe choices.

.ch has been around for like 30+ years

[–] Makeshift 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (20 children)

Obama campaigned as a progressive and governed as a liberal. The world changing had nothing to do with it

EDIT: For instance, he ran on making abortion rights law, but once elected with a supermajority he switched gears and said it was not a high priority.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/andrewkaczynski/obama-promised-to-sign-the-freedom-of-choice-act-o

[–] Makeshift 55 points 2 years ago (23 children)

I'm no Biden stan, but I am a progressive, and he has definitely been more progressive than Obama was. Obama was a great president aka being a public figure/speaker, but Biden has had a much more progressive policy agenda and I'm all for that

[–] Makeshift 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wish I did this. I went to check if there were any signs of the protest and couldn't help but contribute to one of the "fuck spez" signs

I then realized that place already felt kind of overdone last time they did it, this time it just feels completely meaningless

[–] Makeshift 13 points 2 years ago

it was a little over the top, but it was at least kind of cool.

s3 spoilers below

the show really jumped the shark for me with the nasa terrorist attack and Ed making that impossible landing which all the scientists said was impossible

also I hated that they introduced that Russian guy that got Ed's daughter pregnant only to kill him off. it just seems like they started going for shock value at some point

[–] Makeshift 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't see an option for the Soulja Boy Game Console

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