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Take it or leave it.
Ones the shortest path to a good life for the kids. Being stubborn and martyring for the cause is what everyone there is taught is right at the schools. Including the UN run ones.
And you seemed to have missed the citizenship and relocation to a safe place with protection. The only threat to them at that point is the violent thugs that run their government and the people who think collective punishment is OK who want revenge.
Germans went through this too BTW.
Palestinians in Gaza have been offered citizenship, relocation for their families, and a financial reward to snitch on Hamas.
Hamas is very popular unfortunately. Still hundreds, maybe thousands now, of collaborators including the family of its leadership.
Oh yea also your numerical comparison is more like 1/50 are Hamas fighters or directly involved. We (as in everyone native to the region) have big families with lots of kids which is why the population demographics look like they do. My grandma was 1 of 12 siblings. The guy I linked is 1 of 9. But as the guy I linked said the kids are taught and expected that being a militant fighter is a noble goal so a few young men in each family end up becoming fighters with family support.
Plenty of Hamas in the west bank including one of their leaders I know of. They are more popular than Fatah in a lot of places.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosab_Hassan_Yousef this guy's father. Him and his brother are speaking out against Hamas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwvsrybklf8 https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy4Im6KPs7O/
69ish% of modern Israeli jews are natives to the region. The group labeled "zionists" or "colonizers" describes about 30%.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world about as many or more than the Nakbah got expelled.
The Hamas rep elaborated previously that like 50+ hostages were held by other groups and in some cases just some people that did a kidnapping.
It's public record but it doesn't take much effort to obfuscate it's happening. That's why reddit fuzzed votes in the first place.
Chatgpt makes it really easy for the people inclined to write scripts to post comments and repost articles and spin up dozens or hundreds of accounts.
Captchas help but someone committed can throw $100 in and get many many accounts if they don't want to do it themselves. IPv6 addresses to proxy the bots through are easy to get by the thousand too.
You also don't use brand new accounts you roll them over the course of a few weeks or months.
The other commenter got to it already.
Because there's a bunch of tribes including the majority of modern Israeli jews who are native to the Middle East for centuries.
Arabs and Hebrewd are both Semitic (as in native to the area) and both groups look the same. There's like half a dozen sub groups plus others that are welcome in Israel and are full citizens and aren't jews.
It's a sectarian conflict. Foreigners injecting racist whiteness into it is ignorant of the situation actually in the region.
None of the people pushing the aparteid ethnostate angle are from the area....the settler shit is bad but like a lot of Israelis agree they are bad and should go. Cops are Bastards.
Explain it's a sectarian thing based as much on politics (who won a civil war our grandparents generation fought) at this point and they just don't care.
Like there's been very public attempts to remove the far right government members. No one remembers the entire country including the air force striking when Bibi tried to fuck with the judiciary prosecuting his crimes earlier this year. The president (its usually mostly ceremonial) is the leader of the Socialist Labor party.
Bibi is at historic low popularity, 8-9/10 Israelis (including the large Arab citizen Pop) want him gone.
Gaza is fucked now because the Palestinian nationalist movement went wild and militant after Yaser Arafat died. Dude was also massively corrupt and hurt his people for his own personal enrichment.
(also every time someone pops off about Zionism and the Ashkenazi tribe immigrating to the region in the 1800s I have to consider whether to tell them like 69% of jews in Israel literally aren't European zionists under their own definition. Around 900k native to region for centuries jews moved to Israel shortly after it came into existence when they got expelled from the surrounding countries in a nationalistic fervor that spurred a ton of extremely bad shit.)
Shenanigans are actually super easy if you care.
Lemmy is mostly lefties despite a few glaring counter examples.
Theres a lot of huffing gas going on on the left with near zero historical context or on-the-ground understanding. People still repeat "River t0 the Sea" as if it's not a literal call to genocide for militant nationalists. Instead they post the decolonization blog. Meanwhile even Palestinian Authority reps and members of the negotiating team for the last n peace deals are publishing opinion pieces that the phrase is intrinsically a call to violent genocide and the Palestinian supporters really need to check who they are getting their "facts" from. It's basically on siding with a terrorist org but because some people think there is a noble goal beneath it that makes it OK to chant.
There's also a lot of people too young to remember how the West and East conducts sieges in dense urban areas. It's not good or pretty to look at.
Also like most people outside of the region don't seem to get that Palestinians and Israelis are both more or less the same ethnicity (Semitic though the term has fallen out of usage outside of describing the language roots of Arab and Hebrew and like half a dozen other languages) and look the same. There isn't a skin color component. That's projection from Americans/Westerners who mostly see Ashkenazi jews who tend to avoid light for various reasons and are pretty pale. Once they are back in the middle east everyone turns a shade of olive/brown and you couldn't pick a jew or an Arab out of a lineup if they didn't have religious clothing on to make it easier.