Kinperor

This is not a time to get hung up about identity politics, who's red, who's blue. Everyone should scream at the Trump regime that war with Iran is unacceptable and to never bring it up again.

There will be time for bickering afterwards about details, but right now, everyone against this war should circle the wagons.

And everyone not against this war needs to first say no to that war, second pick up an history book about Iraq and Afghanistan.

But Israel is not expanding into Iran or bombing civilian areas (yet)

Israel literally bombed apartment complex with scientists as part of their unprovoked attacks.

Best outcome here is the fall of Iranian islamic regime

A change of regime in Iran is the wet dream of Netanyahu. Just this should tell you how bad of a thing it is.

and people can take back their freedom

You need to read a bit on Libya and Syria, the gracious interventions by the west did NOT result in a blossoming LGTPDASODNA+ democracy haven.

are you hamas sympathizer?? why are you using plestinin??? amalek babies forced israeli to attack provocally

Then explain your point better because you aren't making sense.

"there’s basically nothing to fix" => "I didn’t say no problems with immigration."

It’s incredibly frustrating and scary, because the narrative is fully turning into “jews are evil”, and there is nothing any Jewish person can do about it.

If it's any kind of comfort to you, I got radicalized against Zionism by jews. A lot of jewish observers are fighting to free Palestine.

I did hear some palestinian or muslim speak out against Israel's inhuman apartheid state, but jews have been making the best case I've heard for freeing palestine.

You take a moment to look at some unbiased vlogging on the US/Mexico border and tell me it was problem-free.

Otherwise you can read about the hotels being turned into expensive migrant refuges, which I've seen reported about across the country. The government was paying for that, for non-citizens, during an ongoing homelessness crisis.

Look at all the cheap slave-labor that vanished into thin air the moment Trump started deporting people.

You guys absolutely had a problem with immigration. And not only did the democrats not offer any actual solution, the problem got worse under their watch. This is a prime example of democrats having useless identity politics where they address problems by brow-beating people and calling them racist, rather than doing anything for their citizens.

25 years ago? The guy was wanted as a terrorist with a $10m bounty in 2017, the fuck you mean "25 years ago". The bounty was rescinded because he overthrew a government seen as hostile by Israel and the US.

Are you just ignoring the article I linked describing mass killings of Alawite? Are you trying to defend those guys?

I don't really feel like rehashing all the ways that the Iraq/Afghanistan war were disastrous

training Syrian troops (who eventually did win) as a result of the Arab Spring and Assad gassing his own people which Obama did not start

You need to read about Timber Sycamore. Assad did a lot of bad things, but it's mental to imply that it was worth investing in Al-Qaeda affiliated militias to overthrow him. The new leader in Syria had a $10* million bounty on his head before rising to power in Syria, he is a leader of a splinter group of Al-Qaeda.

The Assad overthrow is not the pure-wholesome western win that you think it is. Sectarian minorities have been ethnically cleansed by these Syrian rebels now in power.

If you think that this is a success story from Obama's admin, I'm afraid there's no point discussing any longer.

I might have misspoke: it would be more accurate to state that he got the US involved in wars, rather than starting them. More specifically, he's criticized for getting the US in five wars and saber rattling with Iran.

A year ago, it looked like he might end two of the longest wars in U.S. history by the time he left office. As of today, President Obama has involved the United States in five evolving conflicts, and there is little prospect any of them will be over by the time the next president is inaugurated, unless the United States chooses to disengage and lose.

Did you see the latest images coming out of Gaza? They're drip feeding humanitarian aid to crowds of people herded like cattle in wired fences.

It's utterly outrageous, even by Israel's standard. Their activities are too repulsive to ignore for a lot of commentators.

I would say Obama is even worse than Biden as a role model to glorify.

You can draw a direct line between Obama's fellating of wall street and the rise to power of MAGA. He was elected on a mandate to punish the bankers and utterly failed at this task, he failed to enshrine Roe Vs Wade, and started a few wars. Combine this with other events like the management of Bernie Sanders' first attempt at the presidency, and you have a spectacularly inept democrat party that lost all credibility/appeal with swing voters.

Taking the current politics at face value, Trump would have 0 appeal if the democrats had a reasonable management of the border, if the democrats had actual economic politics instead of identity politics and didn't bend the knee to the military industrial complex as much as republicans did.

It’s easy to vilify Jews when we are painted as invisible or other.

My brother in Christ (who is king) -

Zionists are tainting the reputation of Judaism by persecuting and occupying Palestine. No one is mad at Zionists because they are jews or invisible.