Kieselguhr

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

(There was a famous trial in the 60s where war criminals, one of them an insignificant party member, were found out - a victim came forward after recognizing the nazi on the street - then they executed the nazis.)

Liberals actually call this a "show trial", because it was widely publicized. The nazis got a proper attorney etc. Then they were hanged.

It's worth noting that the Secret Police actually suspected one of them, but they had no hard evidence, until an eyewitness recognized the fucker. So actually due process was followed.

Warning, graphic depiction of Nazi crimes against humanity:

spoilerMembers of the Kröszl Group tortured and murdered their victims with bestial cruelty, similar to other Arrow Cross units. They looted captured Jews, stripped them naked, beat them with rubber hoses, iron rods, and whips, and even burned them with cigarettes. Women were often raped. In the basement of the party house, eight women and twelve men were forced to have sexual intercourse in front of them, after which the victims were shot dead. It happened that children were thrown out of windows or drowned in water-filled tubs.

On November 14, 1944, during the "party house dedication ceremony," the drunken Arrow Cross members took the Jews to the Rákos stream and shot them dead. In December, they brought fourteen people to the same location, from whom Kröszl selected two and instructed them to run a race against each other. He added that the winner would stay alive. The chosen ones started running, but in vain, as the Kröszl Group shot both of them.

In the building at 80 Thököly Street, Kröszl and his associates showed no mercy, and their methods were primarily the products of twisted minds. For example, in early December, they laid several Jews on the tracks of tram line 67 and attempted to persuade the tram driver to run over them, but fortunately, the driver's resistance thwarted their plan. The Arrow Cross members also "celebrated" Christmas in the headquarters. They drank themselves into a stupor, brought several prisoners from the basement, and raped them. Afterward, as part of a "loyalty test," they shot around thirty Jews dead.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

After the Canadian Nazi celebration bullshit, a side topic that has emerged is what happened to Eastern European Nazis who remained in Eastern Europe. And here's what liberals believe:

the nazis of 1945 just became communists in 1946, basically no one was prosecuted, apart from a tiny few


So Rakosi executed Szalasi and his government along with Sztojay et al., many Hungarian fascists went to prison/gulag, but Rakosi made the decision to let the insignificant ones live regular lives. Unless you know, if they committed war crimes. Then they were executed. (There was a famous trial in the 60s where war criminals, one of them an insignificant party member, were found out - a victim came forward after recognizing the nazi on the street - then they executed the nazis.)

In summary:

  • If you are Tito with barbara-pit then you are an unconscionable monster
  • If you only execute the top 200 fascists, imprison 10000, like the Hungarian comrades did, then you are soft on nazis, in fact you love nazis

parenti moment

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

The American intelligence official I spoke with spent the early years of his career working against Soviet aggression and spying has respect for Putin’s intellect but contempt for his decision to go to war with Ukraine and to initiate the death and destruction that war brings. But, as he told me, “The war is over. Russia has won. There is no Ukrainian offensive anymore, but the White House and the American media have to keep the lie going.

“The truth is if the Ukrainian army is ordered to continue the offensive, the army would mutiny. The soldiers aren’t willing to die any more, but this doesn’t fit the B.S. that is being authored by the Biden White House.”

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah but apperently now that the die is cast and the war is underway, Kissinger thinks Ukraine should join NATO or something.

So Kissinger thinks that USA made a mistake pre-2022, but now they must go forward. He's clearly a galaxy-brain genius.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Here's the thing bucko: the CIA said to Ukraine please don't blow up the pipeline. Pretty please. They knew about it and asked Ukraine not to do it.

But then! Then some rogue Ukrainian agents got in a dinghy with their special forces equipment they somehow found lying around in the cupboard, and they decided to blow it up. Even though the CIA knew about the plans, no one could have expected this!

So this is a tough situation. Clearly no one is responsible. These were rogue agents. And we know this story is true because anonymous CIA sources told the Washington Post. Why would they lie? They have nothing to gain by lying! Unlike that liar tankie Hersh who based his completely fabricated story on anonymous sources, just to further his career! Shameless grifter.

Anywaay, Putler must lose, so it's best to forget about it. Donate to Ukraine while you can. Freedom must prevail. Slava geroyam

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Wow Zelensky met another geriatric war criminal in the span of a week. What a run! What. a. run. Hoo-boy. I wonder who's the next mass murderer he's gonna meet. What a truly great democrat he is. A true role model with impeccable ethical standards.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Comrades of the newsmega often post interesting articles about the war, this one was worth a read:

https://bigserge.substack.com/p/escaping-attrition-ukraine-rolls

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The idea that Ukrainian forces, lacking any air cover, would storm through Russian lines was always going to be more of a Hollywood plotline than reality.

I don't even have a reaction to shit other than oh no everything the Russians said is true about NATO decadence/incompetence, confirmed on MSM media but libs are still "Russian propaganda?"

I am soo tempted to resurrect the thread from a couple of weeks ago about Prigozhin's death where hexbear users debated federated radlib(?) users about the war, and the libs repeatedly claimed that:

  • UKR army is doing well, they are on the road to victory, certainly

  • The neonazi influence is completely marginal

We gave them many sources, and told them that even MSM media is disagreeing with the liberal fantasyland if you actually know how to read. The last couple of days we had this article and Poroshenko with a nazi badge... I honestly don't know what is there to debate. They just refuse to see the truth.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Mind you the closest thing to a hard evidence is the leaked Nuland-Pyatt call where they talk about successors to the president.

The overall sequence of events closely resembles documented color revolution coups carried out by the USA, where the CIA supports ordinary protestors aligned with US interests and relies on corrupt politicians and fascists to do the shady shit.

So the TLDR

  • We know Nuland was fucking around in Ukraine
  • The US had both business and geopolitical interests at stake in Ukraine
  • We know what US coups look like from history (e.g. Mossadegh, Jacobo Árbenz)... and they never stopped! We have absolutely no reason to believe the CIA stopped doing regime change shit. They even gloat about it on tv. They not gonna admit the Ukraine coup in the next 20 years though, obviously.
  • The current Ukrainian regime kowtows to the US, they don't appear independent at all
  • if it was random chance, then the US power elite was incredibly lucky that it went the exact way they wanted it to go. It's much more likely it wasn't just random, and the US was involved.

It's unlikely that a document saying "Let's coup Ukraine" signed by Obama is going to get leaked in the next decade, so don't hold your breath.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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