Kieselguhr

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ilan Pappé's book Ten Myths about Israel is really good

Out of curiosity, does anyone have a similar write up about the events/propaganda since Oct 7?

Things like

  • Myth 1 Hamas beheaded babies
  • Myth 2 Israel's most important objective is rescuing the hostages
  • Myth 3 Israel tries to avoid civilian casualties

and so on, but, you know, detailed with sources

I have a few things bookmarked, but I haven't seen anything that collects propaganda bullshit like this in one place

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

Obama lying about holding Wall Street accountable for the crash also didn't register. They go by vibes, and they forget any revelation about any lies that happened more than a day ago.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Liberals think if you actually want to get $100 for something an opening bid of $200 is a moral failing.

Exactly this.

We must demand true socialism from liberal politicians, so the compromise at least is somewhat acceptable on the short term. (Not that we can vote out capitalism...)

The minimum program is non-neoliberal economics and anti-imperialism. That's the absolute minimum. IF they are not willing to make a compromise with the left why would I vote for them? Because the other guy is a right-winger? Therefore I should vote for a different right winger with different rhetoric, because allegedly they are less corrupt?

Same shit is happening in Europe with different team colors.

A liberal gay friend of ours literally said to us that he'd vote for [anti-gay far right party] if they had a chance to win against [corrupt anti gay right wing party who had been in power for a a while now], but now he thinks he will vote for [centre right party with dubious credentials], only to stop the BIG BAD WOLF, even though he's a "leftist". It makes no sense.

Social democracy, real social democracy is the compromise, and even that's nowhere near enough in the age of climate cataclysm....

Liberals say I'm not pragmatic... but hey let's say I have 4 core political principles: who's the politician who shares at least 2 with me? Who? Why would I vote for 0 matches? Is this the glorious democracy you speak of? For fucks sake, liberals are exhausting... in many ways more exhausting than right wingers.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 10 months ago

Alleged by Ukraine

Oh, so that's how we do things now? Let's put all the alleged belligerents on the other side as well

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

"We are selling ammo to Nazi Germany in 1944, but we have a written contract that they'll only use these to shoot at Soviet and American soldiers [who would liberate the camps], therefore we are not culpable in the genocide" centrist

[–] [email protected] 123 points 11 months ago (4 children)

So Mossad HQ is in a densely populated area in Tel Aviv, so it's not fair to bomb it

[–] [email protected] 67 points 11 months ago

I've watched a couple of minutes of Aaron Máté debating hasbara on Piers Morgan, and it always amazes me how natural they try to make settler colonialism. One of the debaters was Fleur Hassan.

Fleur Hassan-Nahoum is an Israeli politician, media expert and policy maker. She currently serves as Deputy Mayor of Jerusalem in charge of foreign relations, international economic development and tourism.

Fleur Hassan-Nahoum was born in London and grew up in Gibraltar. She is the daughter of Sir Joshua Hassan, who served as the first Mayor of Gibraltar and, later, also served as the first Chief Minister of Gibraltar,[2] and his second wife, Lady Marcelle Bensimon,[3] both of Moroccan and Portuguese Jewish origin.

Hassan-Nahoum grew up bilingual, speaking Spanish and English In 2001, Hassan-Nahoum emigrated to Israel.

Imagine having to debate settlers like this during the ongoing settler colonial genocide. They condescendingly talk to you about the "generous peace deals" they offered to the Palestinians and Iran being the puppet master of Hamas and Hezbollah.

It's crazy. Fuckin mad world. Go back to London for fucks sake.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 11 months ago (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Reminder that Georgia shot first, even the EU agrees with this officially, yet libs keep parroting that Russia invaded Georgia without provocation in 2008.

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