Kieselguhr

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's literally just an American politician at the UN in 2018 citing "credible reports"

As an anarchist, do you often believe what US bureaucrats say? Because if you do I can give you plenty of links from other bureaucrats who don't agree with her

The World Bank’s work is driven by core principles of inclusion, with special consideration for the protection of minorities and other vulnerable peoples. When allegations are made, the World Bank takes them seriously and reviews them thoroughly. In line with standard practice, immediately after receiving a series of serious allegations in August 2019 in connection with the Xinjiang Technical and Vocational Education and Training Project, the Bank launched a fact-finding review, and World Bank senior managers traveled to Xinjiang to gather information directly. After receiving the allegations, no disbursements were made on the project.

The team conducted a thorough review of project documents, engaged in discussions with project staff, and visited schools directly financed by the project, as well as their partner schools that were the subject of allegations. The review did not substantiate the allegations.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

there are credible reports of uyghurs being repressed.

Could you link one that is not from Adrian Zenz or from ASPI or the US NGO-industrial complex?

edit:

some lurkers might have missed this all timer AMA on reddit when a literal CIA agent from Guantanamo Bay started lecturing about the "Uyghur genocide"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

but what about Taiwan

You mean the island where the fascist fled after they lost the Chinese civil war and now acts as a base of US military hegemony?

Hong Kong

What about Hong Kong? The UK leased it after they won a colonialist war in the 19th century. The last British governor of Hong Kong was a white dude appointed from London. What about Hong Kong?

"Only 17% of Hong Kongers say they want independence from China with just 20% saying China has abused the “one country, two systems” model to favor Beijing, a Reuters poll released on December 31 shows."

What about the treatment of minorities?

Could you give us examples?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They're literally stealing children and indoctrinating them

Let's say there's a war going on, and let's say there are war orphans, or children who were already orphans before the war
Let's say these children are also native Russian speakers, like many many people in Eastern Ukraine

  1. What should the Russian government do? Send these orphans to orphanages far from the front?

  2. Or: put them on the bus and send them to the Ukrainian government where they ban the Russian language and there are Bandera pictures everywhere?

Do you seriously believe this is the same as what the Canadians did to the natives?

I think the extreme version of this, "stealing children", is on the same level as the "Gaddafi 'supplies troops with Viagra to encourage massremoved'"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Alright, please elaborate on your critical stance on China that is different from what is mainstream in US politics & journalism.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (45 children)

anarchistically

True anarchist stance is when your geopolitical opinions about the US's rivals coincidentally align perfectly with that of the US State Department. It's always the other side that is propagandized.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (7 children)

One thing that is different is the lack of government-critical sources available from China, also Russia.

Do you speak Chinese or Russian?

[–] [email protected] 63 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (18 children)

Let's bracket the "was the USSR in the right?" question, and let's ask the "how brutal was the Soviet clampdown on these two uprisings?"

  • 1956 Hungary: 2000-3000 killed by the USSR
  • 1968 Prague: 137 killed by the USSR

How does this compare to clampdowns by NATO countries (excluding the US)?

  • Indonesian National Revolution against the Dutch: 100 000 Indonesians killed by the Dutch

  • Algerian War of Independence: 250 000 killed by the French (French estimate) - 1.5 Million (Algerian estimate)

  • French War against Vietnamese Independence: 200 000 dead

  • Portuguese Colonial Wars: 70,000–110,000 civilians killed by Portugal

  • Mau Mau Uprising against the UK: "Officially the number of Mau Mau and other rebels killed was 11,000, including 1,090 convicts hanged by the British administration. The Kenya Human Rights Commission has said 90,000 Kenyans were executed, tortured or maimed during the crackdown, and 160,000 were detained in appalling conditions. "

This is a non-exhaustive list with estimates. The actual brutality is not conveyed. The war crimes are often comparable to the Waffen SS.
You get the idea: the colonial powers were incomparably worse. us-foreign-policy

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

zelensky-navi I want to end the war diplomatically, but only next year. Sorry, but some of our people need to die until I do what I already decided to do

It comes as German chancellor Olaf Scholz spoke with Mr Putin for the first time in nearly two years.

The German leader urged Mr Putin to pull his forces out of Ukraine and begin talks with Kyiv that would open the way for a “just and lasting peace”, the German government said.

The move was swiftly criticised by Mr Zelensky, who said the call had opened a “Pandora’s box” by undermining efforts to isolate the Russian leader.

“Now there may be other conversations, other calls. Just a lot of words,” said Mr Zelensky in his evening address on Friday. “And this is exactly what Putin has long wanted: it is extremely important for him to weaken his isolation and to conduct ordinary negotiations.”

zelensky-pain Diplomacy in 2024 is bad actually. Only next year!

Truly the hero of our time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The Russian ruling class would need to disabuse themselves of neoliberal dogmas

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

giving putin a free pass at ukraine will be after lunch, then?

Listen North American fucking dumbasses, go fuck back off to your suburban hellhole and stop fucking meddling shit on other continents, for FAHKS SAKE Keep eating your McD and Tim Hortons (including the Canadian satrapy here) and stop trying to be the world police, especially with the moral grandstanding, SINCE YOU LITERALLY ARE FUNDING A GENOCIDE RIGHT NOW

(not gonna register to lemmy world for this)

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